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14                        BRADFORD HARE,
      15   CALLED AS A WITNESS, BEING FIRST DULY SWORN TO TELL THE
      16   TRUTH, WAS EXAMINED AND TESTIFIED AS FOLLOWS:
      17                      DIRECT EXAMINATION
      18    BY MR. WILSON:  
      19    Q.  DR. HARE, WOULD YOU STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD,
      20    PLEASE.
      21    A.  BRADFORD D. HARE, H-A-R-E.
      22    Q.  AND WHERE ARE YOU CURRENTLY EMPLOYED, SIR?
      23    A.  I'M ON THE FACULTY AT THE UNIVERSITY OF UTAH IN THE
      24    DEPARTMENT OF ANESTHESIOLOGY IN THE COLLEGE OF MEDICINE.
      25    Q.  OKAY.  SIR, CAN YOU TELL US WHAT DEGREES DO YOU



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       1    PRESENTLY HOLD?
       2    A.  I HAVE A B.S. DEGREE IN PHARMACY.  I HAVE A PH.D. IN
       3    PHARMACOLOGY.  I HAVE AN M.D. DEGREE.
       4    Q.  AND CAN YOU TELL US WHEN YOU OBTAINED YOUR PH.D. IN
       5    PHARMACOLOGY?
       6    A.  I THINK TECHNICALLY IT WAS IN 1974, BUT I RECEIVED THE
       7    DEGREE AT THE SAME TIME I DID MY MEDICAL DEGREE, IN 1975.
       8    Q.  OKAY.  SO YOU RECEIVED BOTH YOUR MEDICAL DEGREE AND YOUR
       9    PH.D. IN PHARMACOLOGY ESSENTIALLY AT THE SAME TIME?
      10    A.  I DID.
      11    Q.  EXPLAIN TO THE JURY WHAT IS THE STUDY OF PHARMACOLOGY?
      12    A.  PHARMACOLOGY IS THE DISCIPLINE THAT STUDIES THE EFFECTS
      13    OF DRUGS, MEDICATIONS.
      14    Q.  YOU SAID YOU HAD A B.S. DEGREE IN THAT PARTICULAR AREA
      15    OF STUDY?
      16    A.  I ACTUALLY HAVE A PHARMACY DEGREE, WHICH WAS JUST FOR
      17    THE PRACTICE OF PHARMACY.  BUT THEN AFTER THAT I DID MY
      18    GRADUATE WORK IN PHARMACOLOGY, WHICH IS A SUBSPECIALTY
      19    WITHIN PHARMACY, I GUESS YOU COULD SAY.
      20    Q.  OKAY.  AS TO THE MEDICAL DEGREE, DID YOU RECEIVE ANY
      21    SPECIFIC TRAINING ALSO RELATED TO THE ADMINISTRATION OF
      22    MEDICATIONS?
      23    A.  AS PART OF MY MEDICAL DEGREE I GUESS I HAD THE STANDARD
      24    EXPERIENCE THAT MEDICAL STUDENTS DO.  BUT THEN I HAD
      25    TRAINING AFTER MEDICAL SCHOOL, A YEAR OF PEDIATRICS AND TWO



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       1    YEARS OF ANESTHESIA TRAINING, AND THEN A YEAR OF TRAINING IN
       2    THE SPECIALTY OF PAIN MANAGEMENT.  IN THOSE AREAS I RECEIVED
       3    MUCH MORE TRAINING IN GIVING MEDICATIONS AND THEIR EFFECTS.
       4    Q.  I'D LIKE YOU TO CONCENTRATE, AS TO YOUR GENERAL MEDICAL
       5    DEGREE, WHAT TYPE OF TRAINING DID YOU RECEIVE IN RESPECT TO
       6    THE ADMINISTRATION OF DRUGS?
       7    A.  WE HAD A CLASS IN PHARMACOLOGY WHICH DEALT WITH, AGAIN,
       8    MEDICATIONS AND THEIR EFFECTS, SIDE EFFECTS AND SO ON.  WE
       9    HAD EXPERIENCES WITH PATIENTS IN OUR SECOND -- WELL, THE
      10    THIRD AND FOURTH YEAR OF MEDICAL SCHOOL WHERE WE WERE
      11    WORKING WITH PATIENTS IN A CLINICAL SETTING.  IN THERE WE
      12    WERE PRESCRIBING MEDICATIONS UNDER DIRECTION, SEEING THEIR
      13    EFFECTS, WORKING WITH PATIENTS IN THAT REGARD.
      14    Q.  I SEE.  YOU INDICATED THAT YOU HAD FURTHER TRAINING AS
      15    RELATED TO SPECIALIZED TRAINING IN ANESTHESIOLOGY?
      16    A.  YES.
      17    Q.  ARE YOU BOARD CERTIFIED IN ANESTHESIOLOGY?
      18    A.  I AM.
      19    Q.  DO YOU HOLD ANY OTHER CERTIFICATES OR BOARD
      20    CERTIFICATIONS?
      21    A.  I'M ALSO BOARD CERTIFIED IN PAIN MANAGEMENT AS PART OF
      22    MY ANESTHESIOLOGY CERTIFICATION.
      23    Q.  OKAY.  SO THIS WAS -- WHEN DID YOU RECEIVE THOSE
      24    PARTICULAR BOARD CERTIFICATIONS?
      25    A.  MY BOARD CERTIFICATION IN ANESTHESIOLOGY WAS IN 1979.



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       1    THE SPECIALTY CERTIFICATION IN PAIN MANAGEMENT WAS IN 1993.
       2    Q.  OKAY.  AS TO YOUR ANESTHESIOLOGY BACKGROUND, CAN YOU
       3    TELL ME HOW LONG HAVE YOU BEEN PRACTICING IN THAT PARTICULAR
       4    SPECIALTY?
       5    A.  I'VE ACTUALLY BEEN OUT OF TRAINING AND IN PRACTICE --
       6    THIS WOULD BE MY 21ST YEAR.
       7    Q.  CAN YOU TELL THE JURY, IF YOU WOULD, WHAT THAT TYPE OF
       8    PRACTICE ENTAILS?
       9    A.  THE PRACTICE OF ANESTHESIOLOGY WOULD INVOLVE THE
      10    ADMINISTRATION OF ANESTHETICS TO PATIENTS UNDERGOING
      11    SURGERY.  THAT'S AT LEAST A BIG PART OF IT.  UNDER THOSE
      12    CIRCUMSTANCES, YOU KNOW, I THINK EVERYONE REALIZES THAT
      13    ANESTHESIOLOGY WOULD INVOLVE PUTTING PATIENTS TO SLEEP FOR
      14    SURGERY.
      15         BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY WE'RE CONSTANTLY STUDYING, UNDER
      16    THOSE CIRCUMSTANCES, THE EFFECTS OF ANESTHETIC DRUGS AND
      17    OTHER DRUGS ON THINGS LIKE BREATHING, BLOOD PRESSURE, HEART
      18    RATE, VARIOUS OTHER VITAL FUNCTIONS.  BECAUSE WHILE THE
      19    PATIENT IS ASLEEP WE'RE IN CHARGE OF MAKING SURE THEY'RE
      20    SAFE AND ALL THE BODY FUNCTIONS ARE WORKING WELL.
      21    Q.  I TAKE IT THAT AS PART OF THAT PARTICULAR SPECIALTY
      22    YOU'RE CONVERSANT WITH AND EXPERIENCED IN READING THESE
      23    TYPES OF TESTS THAT ARE MADE IN THE COURSE OF SURGERIES AND
      24    AFTER SURGERIES?
      25    A.  THAT'S CORRECT.



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       1    Q.  AND THEY PERTAIN -- IN RESPECT TO THE ADMINISTRATION OF
       2    THE MEDICATIONS OR THE DRUGS THAT YOU MAY HAVE ADMINISTERED
       3    TO ANESTHETIZE THESE PATIENTS?
       4    A.  YES.  THERE WOULD BE A WHOLE VARIETY OF DIFFERENT
       5    MEDICATIONS WE MIGHT BE CALLED UPON TO GIVE.  SOME WOULD BE
       6    ANESTHETICS, SOME WOULD BE PAINKILLERS.  SOME WOULD BE DRUGS
       7    MEANT TO SUPPORT BLOOD PRESSURE, CHANGE BLOOD PRESSURE,
       8    HEART RATE.  A WHOLE HOST OF OTHER DRUGS.  PLUS WE'RE GIVING
       9    ANESTHETICS IN THE SETTING OF PATIENTS WITH MEDICAL
      10    PROBLEMS, SO WE HAVE TO ACCOUNT FOR THE DRUGS THAT THEY'RE
      11    ON AND HOW THAT MIGHT AFFECT OUR ANESTHETICS AND THEIR
      12    REACTION TO THE DRUGS.
      13    Q.  ARE ANY OF THOSE PATIENTS WHAT YOU WOULD CONSIDER TO BE
      14    GERIATRIC PATIENTS?
      15    A.  YES.
      16    Q.  OKAY.  HOW MANY OCCASIONS WOULD YOU SAY, OVER THAT 21
      17    YEARS OF EXPERIENCE, YOU'VE PARTICIPATED IN SURGERIES AND IN
      18    MONITORING THESE PATIENTS?  DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA?
      19    A.  THOUSANDS.  I CAN'T GIVE YOU AN EXACT NUMBER.
      20    Q.  YOU ALSO INDICATED THAT YOU DEVELOPED AN EXPERTISE AND A
      21    BOARD CERTIFICATION IN PAIN MANAGEMENT?
      22    A.  YES.
      23    Q.  AND THAT OCCURRED IN 1993?
      24    A.  YES, IT DID.  THAT WAS THE FIRST YEAR IT WAS OFFERED.
      25    Q.  OKAY.  THAT WAS THE FIRST YEAR IT WAS OFFERED AS A



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       1    CERTIFICATION?
       2    A.  YES.
       3    Q.  AND IN RESPECT TO PAIN MANAGEMENT, MAYBE YOU COULD
       4    INDICATE TO US WHAT DOES THAT ENTAIL?
       5    A.  WELL, THE SUBSPECIALTY OF PAIN MANAGEMENT WOULD DEAL
       6    WITH THE SEVERAL DIFFERENT KINDS OF PAIN.  THERE WOULD BE
       7    THE ACUTE PAIN, WHICH WOULD BE PAIN THAT WOULD OCCUR LIKE
       8    AFTER SURGERY.  THERE WOULD BE NONMALIGNANT CHRONIC PAIN,
       9    WHICH WOULD BE CHRONIC HEADACHES, CHRONIC BACK PAIN,
      10    DIFFERENT TYPES OF PROBLEMS LIKE THAT.  AND THEN THERE WOULD
      11    BE PAIN RELATED TO MALIGNANCY.
      12    Q.  OKAY.
      13    A.  CANCER PAIN.
      14    Q.  AND YOU PRACTICED IN THAT AREA FOR HOW LONG?
      15    A.  21 YEARS.
      16    Q.  SO THAT WAS PART OF THE GENERAL PRACTICE THAT YOU HAD AS
      17    IT RELATED TO ANESTHESIOLOGY?
      18    A.  YES.  IT WAS A COMBINATION OF OR, ANESTHESIA AND PAIN
      19    MANAGEMENT IN A PAIN CLINIC SETTING.
      20    Q.  YOU INDICATED THAT YOU'RE PRESENTLY ON THE STAFF AT THE
      21    UNIVERSITY OF UTAH HOSPITAL?
      22    A.  THAT'S CORRECT.
      23    Q.  AND DO YOU DO TEACHING?
      24    A.  I DO.
      25    Q.  AND WHAT AREAS DO YOU TEACH?



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       1    A.  AGAIN, PAIN MANAGEMENT WOULD BE THE MAJORITY OF WHAT I
       2    TEACH.  THEN OPERATING ROOM ANESTHESIA.
       3    Q.  OKAY.  IN THE COURSE OF YOUR PAIN MANAGEMENT EXPERIENCE,
       4    HAVE YOU HAD OCCASION TO TREAT PATIENTS WHO ARE CATEGORIZED
       5    IN THE GERIATRIC AGE GROUP?
       6    A.  I HAVE.
       7    Q.  OKAY.  YOU'VE ALSO, HAVE YOU NOT, TESTIFIED AS AN EXPERT
       8    IN OTHER PROCEEDINGS?
       9    A.  I HAVE.
      10    Q.  YOU'VE BEEN ASKED PREVIOUS TO THIS TIME TO REVIEW THE
      11    MEDICAL RECORDS PERTAINING TO FIVE PATIENTS THAT ARE THE
      12    SUBJECT MATTER OF THIS PARTICULAR CASE, IS THAT CORRECT?
      13    A.  THAT'S CORRECT.
      14    Q.  COULD YOU TELL THE JURY JUST WHAT MEDICAL RECORDS, IF
      15    ANY, YOU'VE REVIEWED IN CONNECTION WITH YOUR TESTIMONY IN
      16    THIS PROCEEDING?
      17    A.  I'VE REVIEWED THE MEDICAL RECORDS FROM THE DAVIS
      18    HOSPITAL, FROM THE GERO-PSYCHIATRIC UNIT.  I'VE REVIEWED
      19    MEDICAL RECORDS FROM THE, I GUESS YOU COULD SAY, NURSING
      20    HOMES FROM WHERE THESE PATIENTS CAME.  I'VE REVIEWED SOME
      21    ADDITIONAL RECORDS, INTERVIEWS, THAT WERE OBTAINED BY
      22    DETECTIVE MORRISON.
      23    Q.  HAVE YOU HAD OCCASION --
      24    A.  I'VE REVIEWED AUTOPSY REPORTS.
      25    Q.  HAVE YOU HAD OCCASION TO CONSULT ANY JOURNALS, IN



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       1    RESPECT TO THE VARIOUS CATEGORIES OF YOUR SPECIALIZED
       2    TRAINING, IN CONNECTION WITH THIS REVIEW?
       3    A.  THERE HAVE BEEN SOME SPECIFIC NUMBERS AND FACTS THAT
       4    I'VE LOOKED UP IN REGARDS TO THIS CASE, BUT MUCH OF IT I'VE
       5    BEEN ABLE TO RELY ON MY ACCUMULATED KNOWLEDGE.   Ha!
       6    Q.  AND YOU PREVIOUSLY TESTIFIED, DID YOU NOT, IN THIS
       7    MATTER IN CONNECTION WITH THE PRELIMINARY HEARING?
       8    A.  I DID.
       9    Q.  AS TO THE MEDICAL RECORDS THEMSELVES, HOW MANY TIMES
      10    WOULD YOU SAY YOU'VE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW THOSE?
      11    A.  IN THEIR ENTIRETY I WOULD SAY I'VE BEEN THROUGH THEM AT
      12    LEAST THREE TIMES; AND THEN I'VE REFERRED TO MULTIPLE
      13    PORTIONS OF THEM MANY OTHER TIMES.
      14    Q.  OKAY.  I NOTE THAT YOU BROUGHT WITH YOU SOME DOCUMENTS
      15    HERE TODAY.  CAN YOU TELL US WHAT THOSE DOCUMENTS ARE?
      16    A.  THESE ARE COPIES OF THE MEDICAL RECORDS FROM THE DAVIS
      17    HOSPITAL AND FROM THE NURSING HOMES.  IN ADDITION, I HAVE
      18    SOME OTHER SUMMARIES, NOTES AND SO ON.
      19    Q.  DID YOU, SIR, IN THE COURSE OF YOUR EVALUATION OF THESE
      20    PARTICULAR RECORDS, MAKE NOTES YOURSELF?
      21    A.  TO SOME DEGREE.  IT WAS MORE NOTATIONS, I WOULD SAY,
      22    RATHER THAN NOTES.
      23    Q.  OKAY.  DID YOU HAVE OCCASION TO IDENTIFY, IN THAT
      24    PARTICULAR EXHIBIT, CERTAIN AREAS THAT YOU FELT WERE
      25    RELEVANT TO YOUR TESTIMONY HERE IN COURT TODAY?



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       1    A.  YES, I DID.
       2    Q.  OKAY.  I WANT TO FIRST TALK TO YOU A LITTLE BIT ABOUT
       3    YOUR SPECIALTY IN PHARMACOLOGY.  I ASSUME THERE'S VARIOUS
       4    CATEGORIES OF MEDICATIONS AND DRUGS, WOULD THAT BE A FAIR
       5    STATEMENT?
       6    A.  YES.
       7    Q.  CAN YOU TELL US, ARE THERE DRUGS THAT ARE CLASSIFIED,
       8    ESSENTIALLY, AS CENTRAL NERVOUS SYSTEM DEPRESSANTS?
       9    A.  THAT WOULD BE A VERY BROAD CATEGORY OF MEDICATIONS.  IT
      10    COULD INCLUDE A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT CLASSES OF DRUGS.
      11    CENTRAL NERVOUS SYSTEM DEPRESSION IS A PROPERTY SHARED BY
      12    MANY DIFFERENT KINDS OF MEDICATIONS.
      13    Q.  SPECIFICALLY, IN YOUR REVIEW OF THE MEDICAL RECORDS IN
      14    THIS PARTICULAR CASE, CAN YOU TELL US WHETHER OR NOT THERE
      15    WERE IN EFFECT DRUGS THAT WOULD FIT INTO THAT CATEGORY?
      16    A.  YES.  IN MOST CASES THE PATIENTS INVOLVED IN THESE CASES
      17    WERE RECEIVING MEDICATIONS THAT WOULD BE CLASSIFIED AS
      18    CENTRAL NERVOUS SYSTEM DEPRESSANTS.
      19    Q.  I'M GOING TO SHOW YOU WHAT HAS BEEN MARKED FOR THE
      20    RECORD AT THIS TIME AS STATE'S EXHIBIT NUMBER 39.
      21             MR. WILSON:  FOR THE RECORD, YOUR HONOR, I REVIEWED
      22    THAT EXHIBIT WITH MR. STIRBA.  I DON'T THINK HE HAS ANY
      23    OBJECTION TO USING THIS AS A DEMONSTRATIVE AID AT THIS TIME.
      24             MR. STIRBA:  THAT IS TRUE, YOUR HONOR.
      25             THE COURT:  OKAY.  GO AHEAD.



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       1    Q.  (BY MR. WILSON)  CALLING YOUR ATTENTION TO THE EXHIBIT,
       2    CAN YOU TELL US, DOCTOR, DID YOU DESIGN THAT PARTICULAR
       3    EXHIBIT?
       4    A.  I HELPED DO THAT.  THIS BASICALLY, I THINK, SUMMARIZES
       5    SOME OF THE PREVIOUS TESTIMONY THAT I'VE GIVEN AND PUTS IT
       6    INTO A HOPEFULLY MORE EASILY UNDERSTANDABLE FORM.
       7    Q.  OKAY.  CAN YOU TELL US WHAT THE EXHIBIT IS, OR PURPORTS
       8    TO SHOW?
       9    A.  WHAT I HOPED TO DEMONSTRATE HERE WOULD BE THE IMMEDIATE
      10    EFFECTS OF SOME OF THE MEDICATIONS, PARTICULARLY IN EXCESS.
      11    AND THEN THE MORE LONG-TERM EFFECTS.  IN OTHER WORDS, A
      12    REFLECTION OF IF AN IMMEDIATE EFFECT PERSISTS, WHAT SORTS OF
      13    THING MAY HAPPEN.
      14    Q.  OKAY.  LET'S TALK ABOUT SOME SPECIFIC DRUGS AT THIS
      15    TIME.  ARE YOU FAMILIAR WITH A DRUG THAT IS CALLED ATIVAN?
      16    A.  YES.
      17    Q.  CAN YOU TELL US ABOUT ATIVAN?  FIRST, DOES THAT HAVE ANY
      18    OF THE CHARACTERISTICS OF A CENTRAL NERVOUS SYSTEM
      19    DEPRESSANT?
      20             MR. STIRBA:  YOUR HONOR, I'M GOING TO OBJECT.  I
      21    THINK IT'S CUMULATIVE.
      22             THE COURT:  GO AHEAD.  OVERRULED.
      23             MR. WILSON:  THANK YOU, YOUR HONOR.
      24    Q.  (BY MR. WILSON)  CAN YOU TELL US A LITTLE ABOUT ATIVAN?
      25    A.  YES.  ATIVAN IS PART OF A GROUP OF MEDICATIONS CALLED



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       1    BENZODIAZEPINES.  IT INCLUDES THINGS LIKE VALIUM, A NUMBER
       2    OF OTHER MEDICATIONS.  TYPICALLY CONSIDERED TO BE MEDICINES
       3    FOR ANXIETY.  FOR PEOPLE WHO HAVE NERVES, I GUESS YOU COULD
       4    SAY.
       5    Q.  DOES IT HAVE ANY SEDATING EFFECTS?
       6    A.  YES, IT DOES.
       7    Q.  I WANT YOU TO SPECIFICALLY FOCUS ON THE SEDATING EFFECTS
       8    AND WHAT THAT MEANS AS TO THE DRUG ATIVAN?
       9    A.  CERTAINLY ONE OF THE MOST PROMINENT EFFECTS WOULD BE, IN
      10    SMALL DOSES, TO RELIEVE ANXIETY OR NERVOUSNESS.  IN HIGHER
      11    DOSES IT WOULD CAUSE SLEEPINESS.  HIGHER DOSES WOULD CAUSE
      12    COMA OR SLEEPY -- I MEAN, GO FROM SLEEPINESS TO
      13    UNCONSCIOUSNESS.
      14         SOME OF THE OTHER THINGS I MENTIONED WILL FIT WITH THAT
      15    IN MY IMMEDIATE EFFECT CATEGORY THERE.  PATIENTS BECOME VERY
      16    SLEEPY.  THEIR ABILITY TO COUGH, TO SWALLOW PROPERLY, BEGINS
      17    TO BECOME LOST.  GASTRIC SECRETIONS, STOMACH CONTENTS, JUST
      18    OTHER SECRETIONS IN THE MOUTH MAY GET PULLED DOWN INTO THE
      19    LUNGS.  SO ASPIRATION IS THE TECHNICAL TERM WE USE FOR THAT.
      20         THESE MEDICINES CAN, AND PARTICULARLY IN LARGER DOSES,
      21    DECREASE BLOOD PRESSURE.  AND WHEN A PATIENT IS REALLY
      22    SLEEPY THEY OFTEN TIMES JUST DON'T EAT OR DRINK MUCH.  AS A
      23    RESULT SOME OF THE LONG-TERM EFFECTS BEGIN TO OCCUR.
      24         SO, STARTING WITH MY LAST STATEMENT ABOUT PATIENTS NOT
      25    EATING OR DRINKING MUCH, EVENTUALLY THEY CAN BECOME



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       1    DEHYDRATED, BECOME MALNOURISHED.  THIS RESULTS IN EVEN A
       2    FURTHER INCREASE IN THEIR SENSITIVITY TO THE DRUG.  THE SAME
       3    DOSE OF DRUG IS GOING TO EVEN CAUSE A GREATER EFFECT IN A
       4    DEHYDRATED PATIENT.
       5             THE COURT:  EXCUSE ME.  I THINK WE NEED TO PROCEED
       6    BY QUESTION AND ANSWER.
       7    Q.  (BY MR. WILSON)  YOU'VE INDICATED THE IMMEDIATE EFFECTS
       8    AND LONG-TERM EFFECTS ON THE CHART.  ARE ALL OF THESE ITEMS
       9    THAT YOU'VE INDICATED, ARE THEY ALL EFFECTS OF -- THAT YOU
      10    COULD EXPERIENCE RELATIVE TO THE ADMINISTRATION OF THIS
      11    PARTICULAR DRUG?
      12    A.  YES, THEY ARE.
      13    Q.  AND AGAIN, AS I UNDERSTAND IT, YOUR TESTIMONY, YOU TALK
      14    ABOUT DOSAGES, IS THAT CORRECT?
      15    A.  THAT'S RIGHT.
      16    Q.  SO THE EFFECTS THAT YOU'VE LISTED THERE, ARE THEY
      17    RELATED TO THE AMOUNT OR DOSAGES THAT WOULD BE ADMINISTERED
      18    TO A PATIENT?
      19    A.  YES, THEY ARE.  SMALL DOSES WOULD, AGAIN, RESULT IN
      20    PERHAPS JUST A PRETTY SELECTIVE ANTI-ANXIETY EFFECT.  THE
      21    PATIENT MIGHT NOT BE VERY SLEEPY.  THEY CAN BE PRETTY ALERT.
      22    THEY MAY EVEN FUNCTION BETTER BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT ANXIOUS
      23    ANYMORE.
      24    Q.  I'LL SHOW YOU WHAT HAS BEEN PREVIOUSLY MARKED AS STATE'S
      25    EXHIBIT NUMBER 31.  I DON'T KNOW WHETHER YOU'VE HAD AN



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       1    OPPORTUNITY TO -- WELL, TAKE A LOOK AT IT, PLEASE.
       2    A.  I THINK I CAN READ IT WITHOUT MY GLASSES.
       3    Q.  HAVE YOU SEEN THAT EXHIBIT BEFORE, DOCTOR?
       4    A.  I BELIEVE I HAVE.  AT LEAST IN SOME FORM, YES.
       5    Q.  JUST READ THROUGH IT REAL QUICKLY AND TELL ME IF YOU
       6    AGREE WITH THE VARIOUS DOSAGES THAT ARE STATED ON THE
       7    EXHIBIT.
       8    A.  WELL, THIS PARTICULAR EXHIBIT COMPARES THE NORMAL ADULT
       9    STARTING DOSE WITH THE STARTING DOSE THAT MIGHT BE GIVEN TO
      10    AN ELDERLY PATIENT.  FOR A NORMAL ADULT STARTING DOSE, IT'S
      11    ONE TO 10 MILLIGRAMS BY MOUTH PER DAY IN THREE DOSES.  A
      12    NORMAL STARTING DOSE IN AN ELDERLY PATIENT IS MUCH LESS THAN
      13    THAT.  SO ONE-HALF TO ONE MILLIGRAM BY MOUTH A DAY IN
      14    DIVIDED DOSES.  NO MORE THAN TWO MILLIGRAMS PER DAY.  A HUGE
      15    REDUCTION FROM THE NORMAL DOSE.
      16             THE COURT:  WHAT WAS THE QUESTION?
      17    Q.  (BY MR. WILSON)  DO YOU AGREE WITH THE STATED DOSAGES
      18    ON THAT PARTICULAR CHART?
      19    A.  YES, I DO.
      20    Q.  AND IN YOUR EXPERT OPINION, WOULD THOSE REPRESENT WHAT
      21    YOU FEEL ARE THE CORRECT DOSAGES?  AND I WOULD ASK YOU TO
      22    LOOK AT ALL THE DRUGS AS FAR AS THAT GOES.
      23    A.  (PAUSE.)  I WOULD TEND TO AGREE WITH EVERYTHING.  I
      24    WOULD TEND TO BE MORE CONSERVATIVE ON THE DURAGESIC DOSE.  I
      25    WOULD SAY THE 25-MICROGRAM PATCH WOULD BE SUITABLE FOR



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       1    SOMEBODY WITH FAIRLY SEVERE PAIN, BUT FOR JUST KIND OF
       2    EVERYDAY NORMAL SORT OF USE THAT'S STILL A PRETTY HEFTY
       3    DOSE.
       4    Q.  OKAY.  LET'S TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT SOME OF THE OTHER
       5    SUBSTANCES.  IF WE CAN, IF COUNSEL WILL ALLOW ME TO LEAD YOU
       6    A LITTLE BIT IN THE INTEREST OF TIME.  TRAZODONE, DOES IT
       7    HAVE ANY CENTRAL NERVOUS SYSTEM DEPRESSANT EFFECT?
       8    A.  YES, IT DOES.
       9    Q.  AND CAN YOU TELL US, RELATIVE TO THE EXHIBIT ON THE
      10    BOARD ON THE CENTRAL NERVOUS SYSTEM DEPRESSANT, DO THOSE
      11    REPRESENT THE EFFECTS, IMMEDIATE AND LONG-TERM EFFECTS, ONE
      12    MIGHT EXPERIENCE WITH THE ADMINISTRATION OF TRAZODONE?
      13    A.  YES, THEY WOULD.
      14    Q.  OKAY.  HALDOL, DOES THAT HAVE ANY CENTRAL NERVOUS SYSTEM
      15    DEPRESSANT EFFECTS?
      16    A.  IT DOES.
      17    Q.  AN AGAIN, WOULD THE CHART THAT YOU HAVE ON THE BOARD
      18    COMPORT WITH THE IMMEDIATE EFFECTS AND LONG-TERM EFFECTS OF
      19    ONE RECEIVING DOSAGES OF HALDOL?
      20    A.  YES.
      21    Q.  IS HALDOL ADMINISTERED IN PILL FORM?
      22    A.  IT CAN BE.
      23    Q.  OKAY.  WELL, LET ME BACK OFF THAT FOR A MINUTE.  LET'S
      24    GO THROUGH THE OTHERS.  RISPERDAL, AGAIN, DOES THAT HAVE ANY
      25    CENTRAL NERVOUS SYSTEM DEPRESSANT EFFECTS?



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       1    A.  IT HAS SOME, BUT PROBABLY NOT TO THE SAME DEGREE AS THE
       2    MEDICATIONS WE'VE ALREADY SPOKEN ABOUT.
       3    Q.  ALL RIGHT.  SO IT WOULD HAVE LESS EFFECT AS TO THE
       4    IMMEDIATE EFFECTS AND LONG-TERM EFFECTS?
       5    A.  BY ITSELF IT WOULD, YES.
       6    Q.  OKAY.  DEPAKENE, CAN YOU TELL US ABOUT DEPAKENE?
       7    A.  THAT'S A DRUG THAT WAS INTRODUCED AS AN ANTICONVULSANT,
       8    A MEDICINE FOR EPILEPSY, BUT IT HAS BEEN USED IN PATIENTS
       9    WITH MOOD DISTURBANCE.  AND IT WOULD FIT IN THE CATEGORY OF
      10    A CENTRAL NERVOUS SYSTEM DEPRESSANT, SO IT CAN CERTAINLY
      11    CAUSE THE EFFECTS THAT I'VE LISTED THERE.
      12    Q.  OKAY.  I WANT TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT IS
      13    REFERRED TO AS A DURAGESIC PATCH.  CAN YOU TELL US WHAT THAT
      14    MEANS?
      15    A.  THE DURAGESIC PATCH IS -- DURAGESIC IS A BRAND NAME FOR
      16    A DOSE FORM OF MEDICATION.  A VERY POTENT NARCOTIC BY THE
      17    NAME OF FENTANYL IS PLACED IN A PATCH FORM THAT WHEN ON THE
      18    SKIN IS ABSORBED THROUGH THE SKIN INTO THE BLOOD STREAM AND
      19    THAT'S HOW WE GET THE EFFECTS OF THE MEDICATION.  SO IT'S A
      20    NARCOTIC TYPE MEDICINE.  IT CAN BE USED FOR, IN CERTAIN
      21    CIRCUMSTANCES, FOR PAIN MANAGEMENT.   
      22    Q.  I'M GOING TO PLACE ON THE BOARD, IF IT WILL STAY THERE,
      23    CAN YOU TELL WHAT THAT IS, WHAT THAT EXHIBIT REPRESENTS?
      24    A.  THIS IS A PORTION, OR A BLOW-UP, I GUESS, OF SEVERAL
      25    PORTIONS OF THE INFORMATION IN ONE OF THE REFERENCES WE



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       1    COMMONLY USE ON MEDICATIONS CALLED THE PHYSICIANS DESK
       2    REFERENCE.  THIS IS ESSENTIALLY A -- THERE'S INFORMATION
       3    THAT GOES ALONG WITH EACH MEDICATION CALLED THE PACKAGE
       4    INSERT.  IT INCLUDES INFORMATION AS TO THE CHEMICAL NATURE
       5    OF THE DRUG, THE USES, THE SIDE EFFECTS, CAUTIONS.  ALL
       6    KINDS OF DIFFERENT THINGS.  IT'S INCLUDED USUALLY IN TINY
       7    LITTLE PRINT, AS SHOWN THERE.
       8         BUT IN THAT IT'S REQUIRED BY THE F.D.A. THAT CERTAIN
       9    IMPORTANT CAUTIONS BE INCLUDED JUST TO MAKE SURE THE
      10    PRACTITIONER PRESCRIBING THE DRUGS IS AWARE OF PROBLEMS THAT
      11    MIGHT OCCUR AND LIMITATIONS THAT MAY BE PLACED ON THAT DRUG.
      12    Q.  IT INDICATES P.D.R. 49 EDITION, 1995?
      13    A.  YES.
      14    Q.  WHAT DOES THAT MEAN?
      15    A.  THAT'S THE 1995 EDITION.  THIS COMES OUT EVERY YEAR, SO
      16    IT'S UPDATED EACH YEAR.
      17    Q.  OKAY.  NOW, WE'VE BLOWN UP CERTAIN WARNINGS AND OTHER
      18    CONTRAINDICATIONS AND GENERAL OBSERVATIONS THAT ARE MADE IN
      19    THE CONTEXT OF THAT PARTICULAR REFERENCE ON THE SIDES.  HAVE
      20    YOU HAD OCCASION TO READ THOSE PARTICULAR WARNINGS AND
      21    REFERENCES?
      22    A.  I HAVE.
      23    Q.  OKAY.  WOULD YOUR TESTIMONY HERE TODAY AGREE WITH WHAT
      24    IS CONTAINED IN THAT PARTICULAR DOCUMENT?
      25    A.  YES, IT WOULD.



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       1    Q.  OKAY.  LET'S TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE DURAGESIC
       2    WARNING.  MAYBE YOU COULD READ THAT, PLEASE.
       3    A.  "DURAGESIC SHOULD BE PRESCRIBED ONLY BY PERSONS
       4    KNOWLEDGEABLE IN THE CONTINUOUS ADMINISTRATION OF POTENT
       5    OPIOIDS."  THAT'S NARCOTIC TYPE PAIN MEDICINES.  "IN THE
       6    MANAGEMENT OF PATIENTS RECEIVING POTENT OPIOIDS FOR THE
       7    TREATMENT OF PAIN AND IN THE DETECTION AND MANAGEMENT OF
       8    HYPOVENTILATION INCLUDING THE USE OF OPIOID ANTAGONISTS."
       9    Q.  LET ME STOP YOU RIGHT THERE.  WHAT IS HYPOVENTILATION?
      10    A.  THAT MEANS DECREASED BREATHING.
      11    Q.  OKAY.
      12             THE COURT:  ALSO, WHEN YOU READ, THE COURT REPORTER
      13    HAS TO TAKE EVERYTHING DOWN.  DOCTORS TEND TO READ FASTER
      14    THAN THEY NORMALLY SPEAK, SO JUST GO SLOW.
      15             THE WITNESS:  THANK YOU.  I WILL.
      16    Q.  (BY MR. WILSON)  AS TO THE TERM THE USE OF OPIOID
      17    ANTAGONISTS, WHAT DOES THAT MEAN?
      18    A.  NARCOTICS ACT IN CERTAIN SYSTEMS IN THE BODY.  THERE ARE
      19    OTHER DRUGS, ONE IN PARTICULAR CALLED NALOXONE OR NARCAN,
      20    WHICH WILL COUNTERACT AS AN ANTIDOTE AGAINST THE EFFECTS OF
      21    NARCOTICS.
      22    Q.  READ ON.
      23    A.  "THE CONCOMITANT USE OF OTHER CENTRAL NERVOUS SYSTEM
      24    DEPRESSANTS, INCLUDING OTHER OPIOIDS, SEDATIVES OR
      25    HYPNOTICS, GENERAL ANESTHETICS, PHENOTHIAZINES,



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       1    TRANQUILIZERS, SKELETAL MUSCLE RELAXANTS, SEDATING
       2    ANTIHISTAMINES, AND ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES MAY PRODUCE ADDITIVE
       3    DEPRESSANT EFFECTS."
       4    Q.  OKAY.  LET ME STOP YOU THERE.  WHAT DOES THAT MEAN,
       5    DOCTOR?
       6    A.  WE TALKED EARLIER ABOUT GENERAL CENTRAL NERVOUS SYSTEM
       7    DEPRESSANTS.  IF ONE OF THOSE IS BEING USED AT THE SAME TIME
       8    AS A SUBSTANCE SUCH AS FENTANYL IN THE DURAGESIC PATCH, THE
       9    EFFECTS BECOME VERY UNPREDICTABLE.  THE SIDE EFFECTS,
      10    RESPIRATORY DEPRESSION, AND OTHER SORTS OF SIDE EFFECTS WITH
      11    THE FENTANYL BECOME MUCH MORE EXAGGERATED.
      12    Q.  AND THEN THE LAST SENTENCE THERE.
      13    A.  "HYPOVENTILATION, HYPOTENSION AND PROFOUND SEDATION OR
      14    COMA MAY OCCUR.  WHEN SUCH COMBINED THERAPY IS CONTEMPLATED,
      15    THE DOSE OF ONE OR BOTH AGENTS SHOULD BE REDUCED AT LEAST 50
      16    PERCENT."
      17    Q.  SO WHAT DOES THAT MEAN?
      18    A.  THAT MEANS THAT IF FOR SOME REASON IT IS NECESSARY TO
      19    USE A GENERAL CENTRAL NERVOUS SYSTEM DEPRESSANT AND FENTANYL
      20    TOGETHER THAT WE HAVE TO BE VERY CAREFUL, FOR STARTERS.
      21    THAT GENERALLY WE WOULD HAVE TO MAKE A DRAMATIC REDUCTION IN
      22    THOSE TO MAKE IT A SAFE THERAPY.
      23    Q.  OKAY.  THE GENERAL OBSERVATION THAT IS MADE THERE ABOUT
      24    DURAGESIC DOSAGES, COULD YOU READ THAT PARTICULAR PORTION OF
      25    THE DOCUMENT.



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       1    A.  "DURAGESIC DOSES GREATER THAN 25 MICROGRAMS PER HOUR,"
       2    THAT'S THE SMALLEST SIZE, "ARE TOO HIGH FOR INITIATION OF
       3    THERAPY IN NON OPIOID-TOLERANT PATIENTS."
       4    Q.  OKAY.  DEFINE NON OPIOID-TOLERANT PATIENTS, PLEASE.
       5    A.  IF A PATIENT HAS BEEN RECEIVING A NARCOTIC OR OPIOID
       6    MEDICINE FOR A LONG PERIOD OF TIME, THE BODY BUILDS UP SOME
       7    RESISTANCE TO IT.  THIS IS GENERALLY AFTER A PERIOD OF
       8    MONTHS.  WE REFER TO THAT RESISTANCE AS TOLERANCE.  SO THAT
       9    MEANS THAT THE PATIENT CAN STAND A HIGHER DOSE AND NOT
      10    DEVELOP PROBLEMS WITH IT.
      11    Q.  OKAY.  HAVE A SEAT.  WE'VE TALKED ABOUT -- OH, EXCUSE
      12    ME.  I DID WANT TO PUT ON THE BOARD WHAT IS MARKED AS
      13    STATE'S EXHIBIT 42.  I'D ASK YOU TO YOU TELL US, SIR, WHAT
      14    THAT REPRESENTS?
      15    A.  THIS, AGAIN, IS FROM THE PHYSICIANS' DESK REFERENCE IN
      16    REGARDS TO THE DURAGESIC PATCH.  THIS GIVES A COMPARISON, ON
      17    ONE SIDE, OF THE DOSE OF ORAL MORPHINE AND HOW THAT COMPARES
      18    TO THE STRENGTH OF THE DURAGESIC PATCH.  IN OTHER WORDS, IF
      19    I WERE SEEING A PATIENT WHO WAS ALREADY ON ORAL MORPHINE AND
      20    I WAS CONTEMPLATING SWITCHING THEM TO A DURAGESIC PATCH, IT
      21    WOULD GIVE ME AN IDEA OF WHAT SORT OF CONVERSION TO MAKE,
      22    HOW TO SWITCH FROM ONE TO THE OTHER SAFELY.
      23    Q.  THIS COMPARES AN ORAL 24 HOUR MORPHINE MILLIGRAM PER DAY
      24    DOSE, DOES IT NOT, TO THE DURAGESIC DOSE?
      25    A.  IT DOES.



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       1    Q.  IS THERE A FACTOR THAT YOU CAN -- WELL, IF AN INDIVIDUAL
       2    IS ADMINISTERED A DOSAGE OF MORPHINE INTERMUSCULARLY, AS WE
       3    HAVE IN THIS CASE, DOES THAT COMPORT TO THE SAME DOSAGE
       4    ORALLY?
       5    A.  NO.  THE INTERMUSCULAR DOSE WOULD BE ABOUT ONE-THIRD OF
       6    THE ORAL DOSE.  SO, IN OTHER WORDS, IF WE DIVIDE THOSE
       7    NUMBERS BY THREE, THEN WE WOULD HAVE A PRETTY GOOD IDEA OF
       8    WHAT THE INTERMUSCULAR DOSE WOULD BE.
       9    Q.  SO ASSUMING AN INDIVIDUAL HAD A DURAGESIC PATCH PLACED
      10    ON THEM OF 25 MICROGRAMS, WHAT WOULD THAT EQUATE TO IN TERMS
      11    OF AN INTERMUSCULAR INJECTION?
      12    A.  THIS IS IN TERMS OF MILLIGRAMS OF MORPHINE PER DAY.  NOT
      13    PER INJECTION, BUT PER DAY.  IT WOULD BE SOMEWHERE BETWEEN
      14    15 AND 40 -- AROUND 40, 45, MILLIGRAMS OF INJECTABLE
      15    MORPHINE PER DAY.  SO THAT'S A PRETTY SIZEABLE DOSE.  THAT
      16    WOULD BE THE SORT OF A DOSE THAT I WOULD EXPECT A PATIENT
      17    WHO HAS HAD FAIRLY MAJOR SURGERY TO REQUIRE.
      18    Q.  OKAY.  SO THIS IS A POWERFUL PAINKILLER?
      19    A.  IT IS.  THIS IS A STRONG DOSE.  THIS IS REALLY A DOSE
      20    DESIGNED FOR PATIENTS WITH SEVERE PAIN.
      21    Q.  AGAIN, THIS IS A P.D.R. REFERENCE EDITION FOR 1995, IS
      22    THAT CORRECT?
      23    A.  THAT'S CORRECT.
      24    Q.  ALL RIGHT.  THE CONVERSION, AS RELATES TO THE 75
      25    MICROGRAMS, SEEMS TO BE A LOT HIGHER, REPRESENTATIVE WISE,



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       1    AS TO THE 25.  WOULD THE SAME CONVERSION RATE HOLD TRUE ON
       2    AN INTERMUSCULAR INJECTION?
       3    A.  YES.  WE WOULD DIVIDE THE NUMBERS THERE FOR THE ORAL
       4    DOSE BY THREE.  IN OTHER WORDS, WE WOULD BE WORKING ON A
       5    DOSING OF SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 75 AND SOMEWHAT OVER A HUNDRED
       6    MILLIGRAMS OF MORPHINE PER DAY.  SO IT'S A LARGE AMOUNT.
       7    Q.  I'D LIKE TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT MORPHINE ITSELF.
       8    MORPHINE IS ALSO A CENTRAL NERVOUS SYSTEM DEPRESSANT, IS IT
       9    NOT?
      10    A.  IT IS.
      11    Q.  I CALL YOUR ATTENTION TO WHAT IS IDENTIFIED AS STATE'S
      12    EXHIBIT 40.  CAN YOU TELL US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT CHART,
      13    HOW THAT CHART WAS PREPARED?
      14    A.  THIS CHART WAS PREPARED IN A SIMILAR WAY AS THE OTHER
      15    ONE.  MORPHINE HAS SOME DIFFERENT CHARACTERISTICS AND
      16    DIFFERENT PARTS OF THE CHART SHOULD BE EMPHASIZED.  AGAIN,
      17    THE IMMEDIATE EFFECTS ARE LISTED ON THE ONE SIDE AND THEN,
      18    WITH PERSISTENT ADMINISTRATION, THE EFFECTS ARE LISTED UNDER
      19    THE LONG-TERM EFFECTS.
      20         I'VE, AGAIN, LISTED PAIN RELIEF AS ONE OF THE EFFECTS.
      21    OF COURSE, IT IS.  BUT THEN I'VE ALSO LISTED WHAT WOULD BE
      22    THE COMMON SIDE EFFECTS, THE COMMON PROBLEMS THAT WE WOULD
      23    RUN INTO, HAVE TO WATCH OUT FOR IF WE WERE PRESCRIBING
      24    MORPHINE TO A PATIENT.
      25    Q.  WHEN YOU SAY THE PERSISTENT -- I'M TRYING TO REMEMBER



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       1    WHAT YOUR STATEMENT WAS.  MAYBE THE PERSISTENT USE OR
       2    DOSAGES OF MORPHINE AS TO THE LONG TERM EFFECTS?  DID I
       3    CHARACTERIZE THAT RIGHT?
       4    A.  I GUESS WHAT I MEANT TO BRING OUT ON THIS CHART, WHEN A
       5    DRUG LIKE MORPHINE IS GIVEN WE SEE SOME THINGS QUITE EARLY
       6    ON.  AGAIN, WHAT I'VE LISTED AS IMMEDIATE EFFECTS.  THOSE
       7    EFFECTS MAY COME ON WITHIN A PERIOD OF MINUTES.  IF IT'S AN
       8    I.M. INJECTION IT WILL PROBABLY TAKE HALF AN HOUR TO AN HOUR
       9    FOR SOME OF THOSE EFFECTS TO COME ON.
      10         OVER THE PERIOD, THOUGH, OF THE NEXT HOURS, OR DAYS, IF
      11    THE PATIENT CONTINUES TO RECEIVE THE MEDICATION, AND
      12    PARTICULARLY IF THE PATIENT IS RECEIVING EXCESSIVE AMOUNTS
      13    OF THE MEDICATION, THEN SOME OF THE THINGS LISTED ON THE
      14    OTHER SIDE, THE LONG-TERM EFFECTS, BEGIN TO OCCUR.
      15    Q.  OKAY.  I ASSUME YOU'VE USED MORPHINE IN YOUR PRACTICE?
      16    A.  YES.
      17    Q.  HAVE YOU USED IT ON MANY OCCASIONS OR --
      18    A.  MANY OCCASIONS.  IT'S ONE OF THE MOST COMMON MEDICINES
      19    WE USE.
      20    Q.  IN FACT, IT'S SORT OF THE STANDARD FOR PAIN MEDICATIONS,
      21    IS IT NOT?
      22    A.  IT IS.  IT'S THE STANDARD BY WHICH OTHER PAIN
      23    MEDICATIONS ARE COMPARED TO TYPICALLY.
      24    Q.  MORPHINE HAS BEEN AROUND FOR A LONG TIME?
      25    A.  A LONG TIME.



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       1    Q.  AND IT'S CLASSIFIED AS AN OPIOID?
       2    A.  OPIOID.  IT'S AN OPIUM DERIVATIVE.
       3    Q.  I MAY BE GETTING INTO THE GUERILLA FAMILY HERE IF I KEEP
       4    THIS UP.  IN TERMS OF THE ADMINISTRATION OF MORPHINE, CAN
       5    YOU TELL US FOR WHAT PURPOSE IS MORPHINE USED?
       6    A.  THE PRIMARY EFFECTS OF MORPHINE -- IT'S MAIN USE IS FOR
       7    THE PURPOSE OF PAIN MANAGEMENT.
       8    Q.  OKAY.  IS THERE ANY OTHER USE IN THE MEDICAL FIELD THAT
       9    MORPHINE IS USED FOR?
      10    A.  TO A MUCH LESSER DEGREE MORPHINE HAS BEEN USED IN
      11    HELPING WITH SOME OF THE BLOOD PRESSURE CHANGES, SOME
      12    DIFFERENT THINGS THAT HAPPEN WITH PATIENTS WHO HAVE HAD
      13    HEART ATTACKS.  OCCASIONALLY, IN AN I.C.U. SETTING, IT CAN
      14    BE USED TO SEDATE PATIENTS.  MAKE THEM MORE TOLERANT OF A
      15    BREATHING TUBE IF THEY'RE ON A VENTILATOR.  UNDER THOSE
      16    CIRCUMSTANCES, THOUGH, WE DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT
      17    DECREASED BREATHING BECAUSE THE VENTILATOR TAKES CARE OF THE
      18    BREATHING.  THOSE ARE SOME OF THE MAIN THINGS.
      19    Q.  IN TERMS OF ITS PRIMARY USE, THOUGH, IT'S PAIN
      20    MANAGEMENT?
      21    A.  YES.
      22    Q.  CAN YOU TELL US, IS IT RELATED TO SEVERITIES OF PAIN?
      23    WHAT TYPES OF PAIN, I GUESS, IS THE QUESTION?
      24    A.  WE USUALLY DON'T THINK OF MORPHINE TO BE PRESCRIBED FOR
      25    MILD PAIN.  WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO USE A MEDICINE LIKE TYLENOL



                                                                       2552



       1    OR ACETAMINOPHEN OR IBUPROFEN OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.  WE
       2    USUALLY THINK OF IT FOR MODERATE TO SEVERE PAIN.
       3    Q.  OKAY.  I REALIZE THIS MAY BE A DIFFICULT QUESTION TO
       4    ANSWER, BUT WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY MODERATE PAIN?  CAN YOU
       5    CLASSIFY THAT FOR US?
       6    A.  WELL, IT'S LESS THAN SEVERE.  I GUESS WE GET INTO
       7    DIFFERENT CLINICAL SETTINGS WHERE WE THINK OF INJURIES OR
       8    SURGERIES AS RESULTING IN DIFFERENT DEGREES OF PAIN.  IF
       9    SOMEONE HAS A MILD INJURY, A CUT ON THE HAND, A MILD SPRAIN,
      10    THEY'RE PROBABLY -- THEY MAY NOT TAKE ANY MEDICINE.  THEY
      11    MAY BE ABLE TO TAKE SOME IBUPROFEN OR SOMETHING AND IT WORKS
      12    PRETTY WELL.
      13         IF THAT BECOMES MORE PAINFUL THAN SOMETHING LIKE
      14    IBUPROFEN MAY STILL WORK BUT NOT WELL ENOUGH.  THEN THEY MAY
      15    NEED SOMETHING A BIT STRONGER.  SOME OF THE ORAL PAIN
      16    MEDICATIONS, ANYTHING FROM DARVON TO PERCOCET, VICODIN, A
      17    NUMBER OF THOSE DIFFERENT ORAL PAIN MEDICATIONS MIGHT BE
      18    USED UNDER THOSE CIRCUMSTANCES.
      19    Q.  WHAT ABOUT CHRONIC PAIN, DOCTOR?
      20    A.  IN CHRONIC PAIN, LIKEWISE, SOME OF THESE MEDICINES, THE
      21    OPIOID MEDICINES, CAN BE AN IMPORTANT PART OF THERAPY.  MORE
      22    SEVERE PAIN, I GUESS, WE THINK OF IN TERMS OF A MAJOR
      23    SURGERY.  A PATIENT HAS HAD A LARGE ABDOMINAL INCISION OR A
      24    TOTAL KNEE PLACEMENT.  WE WOULD CONSIDER THOSE THINGS TO BE
      25    SEVERE PAIN.  I THINK SOME OF THE PAIN OF CANCER CERTAINLY



                                                                       2553



       1    CAN FIT INTO THAT CATEGORY.  NOT ALWAYS, BUT IT CERTAINLY
       2    CAN.
       3    Q.  WHAT DOES THE TERM HALF LIFE MEAN TO YOU?
       4    A.  HALF LIFE IS ONE OF THE TERMS WE USE IN AN AREA CALLED
       5    PHARMACOKINETICS.  THAT'S A KIND OF COMPLICATED NAME TRYING
       6    TO DESCRIBE WHAT HAPPENS WHEN WE TAKE A MEDICATION INTO OUR
       7    BODY.  HOW DOES THE BODY HANDLE THAT MEDICATION, HOW DOES
       8    THE BODY FINALLY GET RID OF IT, HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE.  THE
       9    HALF LIFE IS ONE OF THE IDENTIFIABLE FACTORS THAT WE CAN
      10    COME UP WITH.  IF WE TAKE A MEDICATION IT WILL TAKE A
      11    CERTAIN AMOUNT OF TIME FOR HALF THAT MEDICATION TO BE
      12    ELIMINATED FROM OUR BODY.  THAT NUMBER, GENERALLY IN TERMS
      13    OF HOURS, IS CALLED THE HALF LIFE; ELIMINATION HALF LIFE.
      14    Q.  SO IS THERE ALSO -- IN RESPECT TO THE TERM DURATION,
      15    DOES THAT HAVE ANY SIGNIFICANCE?
      16    A.  IT DOES.  THE DRUGS THAT STAY IN THE BODY LONGER, THE
      17    DRUGS THAT WOULD HAVE LONGER HALF LIVES, ARE GOING TO HAVE
      18    LONGER EFFECT OR A LONGER DURATION OF EFFECT.
      19    Q.  OKAY.  THE FACT OF A PERSON'S AGE AND WEIGHT, IS THAT
      20    TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION IN DETERMINING HALF LIVES OR
      21    DURATION OF DRUGS?
      22    A.  AGE IN PARTICULAR IS QUITE IMPORTANT.  WEIGHT PROBABLY
      23    NOT SO MUCH SO, BUT CERTAINLY THERE IS SOME ROUGH
      24    CORRELATION WITH BODY SIZE.  IF SOMEBODY IS REALLY EXTREME
      25    IN BODY SIZE THAT MAY MAKE THEM MORE OR LESS SENSITIVE TO A



                                                                       2554



       1    DRUG.  BUT AS FAR AS HOW IT EFFECTS THE ELIMINATION OF THE
       2    DRUG, IT'S PROBABLY NOT AS BIG A FACTOR.
       3         BUT AGE IS VERY IMPORTANT.  TYPICALLY ELDERLY PATIENTS
       4    ARE MUCH SLOWER TO ELIMINATE DRUGS FROM THE BODY THAN
       5    PATIENTS OF YOUNGER AGES.
       6             THE COURT:  MR. WILSON, YOU'RE ABOUT TO GET INTO
       7    ANOTHER AREA?
       8             MR. WILSON:  I AM.
       9             THE COURT:  LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, LET'S TAKE -- I
      10    THINK WE'LL TAKE OUR LAST BREAK FOR THE DAY AND THEN COME
      11    BACK ABOUT FIVE MINUTES TO THREE.  THEN WE'LL GO UNTIL 4:30
      12    AS I EXPLAINED.
      13         DURING THAT TIME REMEMBER THAT IT IS YOUR DUTY NOT TO
      14    CONVERSE AMONG YOURSELVES OR WITH ANYONE ELSE ABOUT THIS
      15    CASE.  DO NOT ALLOW YOURSELVES TO BE ADDRESSED BY ANY PERSON
      16    REGARDING THE SUBJECT OF THIS TRIAL.  AGAIN, DO NOT FORM OR
      17    EXPRESS AN OPINION UNTIL THE CASE IS FINALLY SUBMITTED TO
      18    YOU.  SO, PLEASE COME BACK AT FIVE MINUTES TO THREE.
      19             (JURY OUT OF THE COURTROOM.)
      20             THE COURT:  THE RECORD WILL REFLECT THAT JURY HAS
      21    LEFT THE COURTROOM.  HOW MUCH TIME DO YOU THINK -- OBVIOUSLY
      22    WE WON'T GET DONE WITH HIM TODAY?
      23             MR. WILSON:  I THINK I WILL.
      24             THE COURT:  SO WE MIGHT BE DONE BY 4:30 ON DIRECT?
      25             MR. WILSON:  THAT'S CORRECT.



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       1             THE COURT:  LET'S COME BACK AT FIVE MINUTES TO
       2    THREE, THEN WE'LL GO UNTIL 4:30.
       3         (AFTERNOON RECESS.)
       4             THE COURT:  THE RECORD WILL REFLECT THAT COUNSEL
       5    AND THE DEFENDANT AND THE JURY ARE PRESENT.  MR. WILSON, YOU
       6    MAY GO AHEAD.
       7             MR. WILSON:  THANK YOU, YOUR HONOR.
       8    Q.  (BY MR. WILSON)  DR. HARE, I'D LIKE TO TALK A LITTLE
       9    BIT ABOUT THE PROCESS INVOLVED IN ADMINISTERING MEDICATIONS
      10    TO A PATIENT, PARTICULARLY CENTRAL NERVOUS SYSTEM DEPRESSANT
      11    MEDICATIONS.  CAN YOU TELL US, IS THERE A PROCESS OR
      12    PROCEDURE THAT YOU FOLLOW AS A PHYSICIAN IN EVALUATING A
      13    PARTICULAR PATIENT'S NEEDS?
      14    A.  WELL, OF COURSE THE FIRST STEP BEFORE A MEDICATION IS
      15    ADMINISTERED IS IN ONE WAY OR ANOTHER COMING TO THE
      16    CONCLUSION THAT THE PATIENT HAS THE RIGHT DIAGNOSIS TO
      17    RECEIVE THAT MEDICATION.
      18         INFORMATION REGARDING THE DIAGNOSIS CAN BE OBTAINED IN
      19    LOTS OF DIFFERENT WAYS.  THE PATIENT HISTORY.  IF THE
      20    PATIENT'S UNABLE TO GIVE A HISTORY, HISTORY FROM FAMILY
      21    MEMBERS, HISTORY FROM PREVIOUS TREATING DOCTORS.  OF COURSE
      22    PHYSICAL EXAMINATION, YOUR OWN PERSONAL OBSERVATIONS OF THE
      23    PATIENT.  THE RESULTS OF DIAGNOSTIC TESTINGS.  ALL DIFFERENT
      24    SORTS OF THINGS CAN BE USED AND TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT TO COME
      25    TO THE CONCLUSION THAT A PATIENT NEEDS A PARTICULAR



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       1    MEDICATION.
       2    Q.  OKAY.  SO THERE'S A NUMBER OF RECORDS THAT YOU MIGHT
       3    REVIEW OR INFORMATION THAT YOU MIGHT RECEIVE IN EVALUATING
       4    WHETHER OR NOT CERTAIN MEDICATIONS ARE INDICATED?
       5    A.  YES.
       6    Q.  THE PROCESS THAT YOU GO THROUGH IN DOING THAT, AND I
       7    WANT YOU TO RELATE IT SPECIFICALLY TO PAIN MEDICATIONS, IF
       8    YOU WILL, IS THERE ANYTHING DIFFERENT ABOUT THAT PROCESS AS
       9    YOU LOOK AT WHETHER OR NOT TO ADMINISTER A PAIN MEDICATION?
      10    A.  WELL, AGAIN, FIRST YOU WOULD WANT TO COME TO THE
      11    CONCLUSION, IN SOME WAY OR ANOTHER, THAT THE PATIENT IS
      12    HAVING PAIN.  IN SOME CASES, LIKE WITH SOME OF THE PATIENTS
      13    WHO HAVE HAD SURGERY, IT'S VERY EASY TO SEE WHY THEY'RE
      14    HAVING PAIN AND THAT THEY NEED TREATMENT.  WITH MANY CANCER
      15    PATIENTS IT'S VERY EASY TO UNDERSTAND HOW THE PATHOLOGY OF
      16    THE CANCER AND THEIR PAIN CORRESPOND VERY WELL.
      17         ALSO, IN SOME OF THE NON-CANCER CHRONIC PAIN PATIENTS
      18    WE SEE, SOMETIMES IT'S A LITTLE MORE DIFFICULT TO PUT IT ALL
      19    TOGETHER, BUT VERY OFTEN IT'S EASY TO UNDERSTAND AT LEAST
      20    WHY THEY'RE HAVING SOME OF THE COMPLAINTS THAT THEY HAVE.
      21    Q.  NOW, A CENTRAL NERVOUS SYSTEM DEPRESSANT, IS THERE
      22    DIFFERENT TYPES OF PAIN WITH THAT?  
      23    A.  THERE ARE.  THERE'S LOTS OF DIFFERENT KINDS.  AGAIN,
      24    DEPENDING ON THE DIAGNOSIS, ONE TYPE OF MEDICATION MIGHT BE
      25    RECOMMENDED OVER ANOTHER.  IN OTHER WORDS, NARCOTIC



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       1    MEDICINES ARE NOT NECESSARILY THE MEDICINE OF CHOICE FOR A
       2    LOT OF DIFFERENT TYPES OF PAIN.
       3    Q.  OKAY.  AS TO ACTUAL PHYSICAL PAIN, WHERE MAYBE AN
       4    INDIVIDUAL BREAKS A LEG OR HAS SOME OPERATION, I ASSUME
       5    THERE IS -- WELL, MAYBE I DON'T.  STRIKE THAT.
       6         LET ME JUST ASK YOU, IN CONNECTION WITH THAT PROCESS,
       7    ONCE YOU HAVE REVIEWED THE RECORDS, OR WHATEVER INFORMATION
       8    THAT YOU HAVE DETERMINED IS AVAILABLE TO YOU, DO YOU ASSESS
       9    THE NATURE OF THE PAIN?
      10    A.  YES.  YOU TRY TO UNDERSTAND WHY THE PATIENT IS HAVING
      11    THE PAIN AND HOPEFULLY THAT UNDERSTANDING WILL LEAD TO MORE
      12    SPECIFIC TREATMENT.
      13    Q.  OKAY.  IN TERMS OF -- WHAT IS THE ULTIMATE GOAL THAT
      14    YOU'RE TRYING TO ARRIVE AT IN TERMS OF PAIN MANAGEMENT?
      15    A.  GENERALLY IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO ELIMINATE PAIN
      16    ALTOGETHER.  THE GOAL IS TO GET THE PAIN DOWN TO A TOLERABLE
      17    LEVEL.  THAT'S REALLY, I THINK, THE REALISTIC GOAL THAT WE
      18    SHOOT FOR.  SOMETIMES WE ARE ABLE TO GET RID OF ALL THE
      19    PAIN, BUT THAT'S NOT NECESSARILY THE GOAL.
      20    Q.  WHAT DOES THE TERM THERAPEUTIC EFFECT MEAN?
      21    A.  WELL, THE THERAPEUTIC EFFECT WOULD BE THE DESIRED EFFECT
      22    OF A MEDICATION.  IN OTHER WORDS, WE MAKE A DIAGNOSIS, WE
      23    GIVE A MEDICATION FOR THAT DIAGNOSIS AND HOPEFULLY THE
      24    MEDICATION HELPS THAT PARTICULAR PROBLEM.
      25    Q.  SO IF A PERSON IS EXHIBITING SIGNS OR SYMPTOMS OF PAIN,



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       1    THEN THE RELIEF OF THAT PAIN WOULD CONSTITUTE THE
       2    THERAPEUTIC EFFECT?
       3    A.  YES.
       4    Q.  IN LOOKING AT THAT ASSESSMENT, DO YOU TAKE INTO
       5    CONSIDERATION, IN MAKING THAT, OTHER MEDICATIONS THAT THIS
       6    PATIENT MAY BE RECEIVING?
       7    A.  UMM, THE OTHER MEDICATIONS, OF COURSE, COULD AFFECT THE
       8    FINDINGS.  IF A PATIENT IS ALREADY ON PAIN MEDICATION, FOR
       9    INSTANCE, AND THEY'RE COMPLAINING OF SOME PAIN, IT MIGHT
      10    AFFECT MY PHYSICAL EXAMINATION; IT MIGHT AFFECT HOW WELL I
      11    CAN RECOGNIZE WHAT THE UNDERLYING PROBLEM MIGHT BE.  A
      12    PATIENT COULD BE ON A SEDATING MEDICATION, SOMETHING THAT
      13    AFFECTS THEIR ABILITY TO VERY WELL REPORT TO ME WHAT THEIR
      14    PAIN IS LIKE, WHERE IT'S LOCATED, THE CHARACTERISTICS OF IT.
      15    THAT MIGHT MAKE IT DIFFICULT FOR ME TO MAKE SENSE OUT OF IT
      16    AND PROPERLY DIAGNOSE AND TREAT THEIR PROBLEM.
      17    Q.  OKAY.  IF A PATIENT IS UNABLE TO REPORT TO YOU, EITHER
      18    THEY'RE SEDATED OR MAYBE SUFFERING FROM SOME KIND OF MENTAL
      19    DISABILITY, HOW DO YOU GO ABOUT EVALUATING THEIR PAIN?
      20    A.  THE ONE THING WOULD BE -- AGAIN IT DEPENDS ON THE
      21    SETTING.  IF THE PATIENT HAS AN ACUTE INJURY, LIKE AN
      22    ELDERLY PATIENT IN A NURSING HOME FALLS AND BREAKS THEIR
      23    HIP, I THINK IT'S PRETTY EASY TO UNDERSTAND THAT THEY WOULD
      24    HAVE PAIN AND THAT THAT MIGHT NEED TREATMENT.
      25         IF WE'RE TALKING MORE OF A LONG STANDING PAIN, WHERE



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       1    THE PHYSICAL FINDINGS -- IN OTHER WORDS, WHAT WE CAN FIND ON
       2    A PHYSICAL EXAMINATION ISN'T AS CLEAR, IT ISN'T LIKE A
       3    BROKEN BONE.  THE PATIENT SAYS THEY HAVE A HEADACHE OR BACK
       4    PAIN OR SOMETHING LIKE THIS, THEN IT BECOMES A BIT MORE
       5    DIFFICULT, PARTICULARLY IF THE PATIENT CAN'T TELL YOU THAT.
       6    MAYBE THERE'S SOME INDICATION THAT THEY HAVE THAT PROBLEM.
       7    THERE I WOULD PROBABLY MORE RELY ON THE PEOPLE CLOSEST TO
       8    THAT PATIENT.  THE FAMILY MEMBERS, THE NURSES WHO HAVE TAKEN
       9    CARE OF THE PATIENT, AND TRY TO GET AN IDEA FROM THEM AS TO
      10    WHAT THEY THINK THE PROBLEM IS.  IF IT SEEMS PRETTY
      11    CONSISTENTLY THAT A CERTAIN AREA OF THE BODY IS AFFECTED BY
      12    PAIN AND THE PATIENT COMPLAINS UNDER CERTAIN CIRCUMSTANCES,
      13    THEN THAT MAY WELL BE SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE TREATED.
      14         ON THE OTHER HAND, IF THE OBSERVATIONS ARE SUCH THAT
      15    THERE REALLY DOESN'T SEEM TO BE A LOT OF RHYME OR REASON,
      16    THE PATIENT COMPLAINS -- KIND OF INDICATES THEIR HEAD HURTS
      17    FOR A LITTLE BIT AND THEN IT'S THEIR HAND AND THEN THE FOOT
      18    AND IT BOUNCES ALL OVER, THEN THAT MAY BE SOMETHING THAT'S
      19    MORE DIFFICULT TO IDENTIFY AND KNOW HOW TO TREAT.
      20    Q.  OKAY.  IF YOU MAKE A DECISION TO ADMINISTER A PAIN
      21    MEDICATION, WHAT IS THE PROCESS INVOLVED AFTER THAT?
      22    A.  UMM, YOU WOULD HAVE TO DECIDE HOW -- WHICH PAIN
      23    MEDICATION FIRST OF ALL, AND THAT WOULD BE BASED ON THE
      24    PERCEIVED SEVERITY OF PAIN.  AGAIN, EITHER THE PATIENT'S
      25    REPORTS OR AT LEAST SOME, I GUESS, GESTALT THAT YOU HAVE



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       1    ABOUT THE PATIENT AND WHAT MAY BE CAUSING THEIR PAIN.
       2    Q.  WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY GESTALT?
       3    A.  WELL, YOU GET A SENSE OUT OF HOW MUCH DISTRESS THE
       4    PATIENT IS HAVING.  WHAT SORTS OF -- HOW SEVERE THE PAIN MAY
       5    BE.  IF IT APPEARS THAT IT'S A BIT QUESTIONABLE HOW MUCH
       6    PAIN THEY'RE HAVING AND YOU WANT TO SEE HOW WELL THEY
       7    RESPOND TO A MEDICINE, YOU PERHAPS MIGHT START WITH
       8    SOMETHING MILD.  ON THE OTHER HAND, IF IT'S A PATIENT WHO
       9    CLEARLY HAS GOOD REASON TO HAVE A LOT OF PAIN, THEN YOU'LL
      10    BE MORE AGGRESSIVE WITH THE MEDICINE.  SO EVEN THE INITIAL
      11    CHOICE OF MEDICINE, GETTING BACK TO WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT
      12    WITH MILD, MODERATE AND SEVERE PAIN, THAT WOULD GIVE ME SOME
      13    GUIDELINE AS TO WHICH MEDICATION TO CHOOSE.
      14    Q.  OKAY.  ONCE YOU'VE ADMINISTERED A PAIN MEDICATION, DO
      15    YOU MONITOR THAT PAIN MEDICATION?
      16    A.  YOU DO.  YOU HAVE TO HAVE KNOWLEDGE OF THE PAIN MEDICINE
      17    AND WHAT ITS SIDE EFFECTS MAY BE.  SO WE'RE NOT ONLY LOOKING
      18    FOR THE BENEFICIAL EFFECT, WE CERTAINLY WANT TO SEE RELIEF
      19    OF PAIN, BUT WE ALSO HAVE TO BE CAUTIOUS THAT THAT MEDICINE
      20    MAY CARRY SOME DOWN SIDES WITH IT.  YOU KNOW, EVEN MEDICINES
      21    LIKE IBUPROFEN CAN IRRITATE THE STOMACH.  WE TALKED ABOUT
      22    SOME OF THE OTHER PAIN MEDICATIONS THAT CAN CAUSE SEDATION,
      23    RESPIRATORY DEPRESSION.  SO WE'RE ALWAYS USING OUR
      24    THERAPEUTIC EFFECT, OR LOOKING FOR THE THERAPEUTIC EFFECT,
      25    BUT TEMPERING THAT KNOWING THAT WE MAY GET SIDE EFFECTS WE



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       1    DON'T WANT.
       2    Q.  WHAT DOES THE TERM TITRATION MEAN?
       3    A.  TITRATION MEANS THAT -- WELL, ESSENTIALLY, THAT YOU
       4    ALTER THE DOSE TO TRY TO BEST MEET THE PATIENT'S NEEDS.  IN
       5    OTHER WORDS, YOU MAY MAKE YOUR BEST GUESS AS TO WHAT THE
       6    STARTING DOSE OF MEDICATION WOULD BE.  IF THAT DOESN'T SEEM
       7    TO BE QUITE ENOUGH THEN YOU ADD SLOWLY TO THAT.  YOU TRY TO
       8    WORK IT UP TO THE POINT WHERE IT'S EFFECTIVE.  OR IF THE
       9    INITIAL DOSE SEEMS TO BE A BIT HIGH, TOO MANY SIDE EFFECTS,
      10    THE PATIENT IS GETTING RELIEF BUT TOO MANY SIDE EFFECTS, YOU
      11    BACK DOWN A BIT, BUT NOT TOO MUCH.
      12    Q.  DOES THE MEDICATION ADMINISTERED -- IS THERE A DIFFERENT
      13    PROCESS, IN TERMS OF MONITORING, THAT YOU WOULD GO THROUGH
      14    IN TERMS OF CERTAIN TYPES OF MEDICATIONS?
      15    A.  CERTAINLY.  THE SIDE EFFECTS OF THE DIFFERENT TYPES OF
      16    PAIN MEDICINE ARE REALLY PRETTY WELL DOCUMENTED.  THOSE
      17    WOULD BE THE MAIN THINGS YOU WOULD CONCENTRATE ON.  A
      18    MEDICINE LIKE IBUPROFEN, WE'D BE INTERESTED IN MAKING SURE
      19    THE KIDNEYS ARE WORKING AND THE STOMACH DOESN'T GET
      20    IRRITATED.  A MEDICINE LIKE MORPHINE, WE'RE MORE INTERESTED
      21    IN SEDATION, RESPIRATORY DEPRESSION, NAUSEA, CONSTIPATION.
      22    THOSE ARE MORE THE SIDE EFFECTS THAT WE'RE WORRIED ABOUT.
      23    Q.  OKAY.  IF YOU WILL, I WOULD LIKE TO GO THROUGH YOUR
      24    REVIEW OF THE PARTICULAR PATIENTS THAT ARE PART OF THE
      25    SUBJECT MATTER OF THIS CASE.  I'M GOING TO PLACE ON THE



                                                                       2562



       1    BOARD WHAT HAS BEEN PREVIOUSLY MARKED AS STATE'S EXHIBIT 34.
       2    I'LL ASK YOU TO TAKE A LOOK AT THAT, PLEASE.
       3    A.  (WITNESS COMPLIED.)
       4    Q.  CAN YOU TELL US, HAVE YOU HAD OCCASION TO REVIEW THAT
       5    EXHIBIT PRIOR TO YOUR TESTIMONY HERE RIGHT NOW?
       6    A.  I HAVE.
       7    Q.  OKAY.  AND THIS PURPORTS TO BE THE EXHIBIT PERTAINING TO
       8    ELLEN ANDERSON.  IN LOOKING AT THAT CHART, DOES THE CHART
       9    BEAR ANY CORRELATION TO THE MEDICATIONS THAT YOU REVIEWED
      10    THAT WERE ADMINISTERED TO HER IN CONNECTION WITH THE MEDICAL
      11    RECORDS YOU REVIEWED?
      12    A.  YES, IT DOES.
      13    Q.  OKAY.  NOW, ON THE SIDE OF THAT CHART THERE'S A DRUG
      14    NAME IN PILL FORM AND THEN THERE'S ALSO A DRUG NAME IN THE
      15    RED BOX.  I'D JUST CALL YOUR ATTENTION TO ELLEN ANDERSON'S
      16    RECORDS RIGHT NOW.  DID YOU HAVE OCCASION TO THOROUGHLY
      17    REVIEW HER RECORDS?
      18    A.  YES, I DID.
      19    Q.  CAN YOU TELL US, DID YOU REVIEW ANY RECORDS PERTAINING
      20    TO HER ADMISSION AT THE GERO-PSYCH UNIT?
      21    A.  YES.
      22    Q.  DID YOU REVIEW ANY RECORDS PERTAINING TO HER EARLIER
      23    RECORDS, AS FAR AS HER NURSING HOME RECORDS OR PRIOR CARE
      24    RECORDS?
      25    A.  YES, I DID.



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       1    Q.  OKAY.  AT THE TIME OF ADMISSION, DOCTOR, CAN YOU TELL US
       2    WHETHER OR NOT THERE WAS ANY INDICATION IN THE RECORDS
       3    THEMSELVES WHICH TO YOU INDICATED THAT THE PATIENT WAS
       4    EXPERIENCING ANY PAIN?
       5    A.  THERE SEEMED, BY THE REPORTS IN THE RECORDS, THAT THE
       6    PATIENT'S PAIN COMPLAINTS, IF ANY, WERE MINIMAL.  IT SEEMED
       7    THAT THE RECORDS REFLECTED MORE THAN ANXIETY WAS HER MAJOR
       8    ISSUE.  ANY TIME, THOUGH, THAT SHE COMPLAINED OF SOMETHING
       9    THAT SEEMED TO BE A PAIN COMPLAINT --
      10             MR. STIRBA:  I'M GOING TO OBJECT.  THE RECORDS
      11    SPEAK FOR THEMSELVES.  HE'S JUST CHARACTERIZING WHAT HE'S
      12    READING.  IF HE WANTS TO READ IT, FINE, OR ASK A MORE
      13    SPECIFIC QUESTION.
      14             THE COURT:  LET'S PROCEED BY ANOTHER QUESTION.
      15    Q.  (BY MR. WILSON)  IN RESPECT TO THE PHYSICAL CONDITION,
      16    AS YOU REFERENCED FROM THE RECORDS, CAN YOU TELL US WHAT HER
      17    PHYSICAL CONDITION WAS?
      18    A.  SHE HAD SOME MEDICAL PROBLEMS, BUT NONE WERE LIFE
      19    THREATENING.  SHE WAS MEDICALLY STABLE AT THE TIME SHE
      20    ENTERED THE GERO-PSYCH UNIT.
      21    Q.  OKAY.  NOW, WHEN WAS SHE ADMITTED TO THE UNIT?
      22    A.  ON DECEMBER 29TH, 1995.
      23    Q.  DO YOU KNOW WHETHER THERE WAS ACTUALLY ANY PHYSICAL
      24    EVALUATION CONDUCTED ON THIS PATIENT?
      25    A.  ACCORDING TO THE RECORDS, IT APPEARS THAT THE PHYSICAL



                                                                       2564



       1    EXAM -- NOT THE PHYSICAL EXAM, BUT THE ADMISSION PAPERWORK
       2    WAS DONE AFTER THE PATIENT'S DEATH.
       3    Q.  CAN YOU TELL US, DOCTOR, IS THERE ANYTHING IN PARTICULAR
       4    IN THE MEDICAL RECORDS WHICH REFERENCES THIS PATIENT
       5    COMPLAINING OF PAIN?
       6    A.  NOT ANYTHING THAT INDICATED THAT SHE SPECIFICALLY HAD
       7    PAIN COMPLAINTS.  SHE DID HAVE A HISTORY OF OSTEOPOROSIS AND
       8    SHE'D HAD SOME PROBLEMS RELATED TO THAT.  BUT IN THE PERIOD
       9    PRIOR TO HER ADMISSION TO THE HOSPITAL THERE DIDN'T SEEM TO
      10    BE ANY -- YOU KNOW, ANY CLEAR ONGOING PAIN COMPLAINTS.
      11    Q.  OKAY.  DID YOU SEE, IN YOUR REVIEW OF THE RECORDS, AND
      12    PARTICULARLY THE NURSE'S NOTES ON THAT PARTICULAR DATE,
      13    AFTER ADMISSION, THAT WOULD IN YOUR MIND INDICATE ANY SIGNS
      14    OR SYMPTOMS OF PAIN?
      15    A.  NONE THAT I SAW.    See Nurse's Notes>>
      16    Q.  IN RESPECT TO THE ADMINISTRATION OF MORPHINE, CAN YOU
      17    TELL US WHETHER OR NOT THERE WAS ANY MORPHINE ORDERED FOR
      18    THIS PATIENT?
      19             MR. STIRBA:  YOUR HONOR, I'M GOING TO OBJECT.  THIS
      20    IS CUMULATIVE.
      21             THE COURT:  ASK THE QUESTION AGAIN.
      22    Q.  (BY MR. WILSON)  THE QUESTION WAS, WAS THERE ANY
      23    MORPHINE THAT WAS ORDERED IN RESPECT TO BE ADMINISTERED TO
      24    THIS PATIENT?
      25             MR. STIRBA:  AND I'LL OBJECT.  DR. FEHLAUER'S



                                                                       2565



       1    TESTIMONY IS CUMULATIVE AND THIS IS REDUNDANT.
       2             THE COURT:  IT'S OVERRULED RIGHT NOW, BUT LET'S NOT
       3    REPEAT WHAT THE LAST WITNESS SAID.
       4    Q.  (BY MR. WILSON)  CALLING YOUR ATTENTION TO THE EXHIBIT
       5    ON THE BOARD, DOES THE EXHIBIT SHOW TWO INJECTIONS OF
       6    MORPHINE THAT WERE ADMINISTERED TO THIS PATIENT?
       7    A.  YES.
       8    Q.  CAN YOU TELL US WHEN THE FIRST INJECTION WAS
       9    ADMINISTERED?
      10    A.  THE FIRST WAS INJECTED AT ABOUT 7:30 IN THE EVENING.
      11    Q.  OKAY.  IN YOUR OPINION, WAS THERE ANY MEDICAL REASON TO
      12    ADMINISTER THE DRUG MORPHINE?
      13    A.  NONE THAT I COULD FIND IN THE RECORDS.
      14    Q.  OKAY.  WHAT AMOUNT WAS ADMINISTERED ON THE FIRST
      15    INJECTION?
      16    A.  TEN MILLIGRAMS INTERMUSCULARLY.
      17    Q.  DO YOU HAVE AN OPINION AS TO WHETHER THAT WAS AN
      18    APPROPRIATE DOSAGE FOR THIS PARTICULAR PATIENT?
      19    A.  I GUESS, UNDER CIRCUMSTANCES WHERE MORPHINE MIGHT BE
      20    INDICATED, WHICH IN THIS CASE IT DIDN'T SEEM TO BE, A MUCH
      21    SMALLER DOSE WOULD HAVE BEEN A REASONABLE STARTING DOSE.
      22    PERHAPS TWO MILLIGRAMS, THREE MILLIGRAMS.  A FRACTION OF THE
      23    DOSE THAT SHE RECEIVED.
      24    Q.  OKAY.  IN THE NURSE'S NOTES AND FROM THE RECORDS, DID
      25    YOU MAKE ANY NOTATIONS OR OBSERVATIONS RELATIVE TO ANY SIGNS



                                                                       2566



       1    OR EFFECTS OF TOXICITY OF THE DRUG?
       2    A.  UMM, YES.  WELL, THE ONE DOWNSIDE IS THAT THE PATIENT
       3    RECEIVED THE MEDICATION AT 7:30 IN THE EVENING AND I --
       4             MR. STIRBA:  I'M GOING TO OBJECT.  THE QUESTION WAS
       5    TOXICITY SIGNS AND SYMPTOMS FROM THE NURSING NOTES.
       6             THE COURT:  JUST ANSWER THE QUESTION.
       7    Q.  (BY MR. WILSON)  OKAY.  SPECIFICALLY, CAN YOU REFERENCE
       8    WHAT NOTES, IF ANYTHING, INDICATED ANY PROBLEMS WITH
       9    TOXICITY AS RELATES TO MORPHINE?
      10    A.  IT APPEARS THAT THE FIRST TIME THE PATIENT WAS CHECKED,
      11    AFTER THE 7:30 IN THE EVENING DOSE, WAS AT ONE O'CLOCK IN
      12    THE MORNING.  AT THAT POINT IT'S DESCRIBED THAT THE
      13    BREATHING WAS ERRATIC.  A RATE OF ABOUT EIGHT TO 16 PER
      14    MINUTE.  THE BLOOD PRESSURE IS 70 OVER 50, WHICH IS
      15    EXTREMELY LOW.  THE PULSE RATE IS HIGH AT 120.
      16    Q.  OKAY.
      17    A.  SO THESE EFFECTS WOULD BE VERY CONSISTENT WITH THE
      18    EFFECTS OF A LARGE DOSE OF MORPHINE.
      19    Q.  THAT WAS THE FIRST NOTE AFTER THE ADMINISTRATION OF THE
      20    MORPHINE AT 7:30?
      21    A.  THAT'S CORRECT.  See the reality ("patient calmer 2hrs after MS inj")>>
      22    Q.  IN RESPECT TO OTHER NOTES, CAN YOU TELL US WHETHER OR
      23    NOT THERE WAS ANY FURTHER INJECTIONS PRESCRIBED FOR THIS
      24    PATIENT AND GIVEN TO THE PATIENT?
      25    A.  THE PATIENT THEN RECEIVED A SECOND DOSE AT, I BELIEVE,



                                                                       2567



       1    3:30 IN THE MORNING.  SO THIS WOULD HAVE BEEN TWO,
       2    TWO-AND-A-HALF HOURS, LATER.  ANOTHER 10 MILLIGRAMS WAS
       3    ORDERED TO BE GIVEN BY DR. WEITZEL.
       4    Q.  OKAY.  IN THE NURSE'S NOTES DO YOU SEE ANYTHING BETWEEN
       5    1:30 AND 3:30 THAT WOULD BE INDICATIVE OF ANY SIGNS OF --
       6    THAT THIS PATIENT WAS EXPERIENCING ANY KIND OF PAIN?
       7    A.  IT IS NOTED THAT THE PATIENT AWAKENED, SEEMED TO BE
       8    THRASHING HER ARMS AND WAS MOANING, SCREAMING.  THAT
       9    WOULDN'T NECESSARILY BE AN INDICATION OF PAIN.  IT APPEARS
      10    THAT THE PATIENT WAS DISTRESSED OR CONFUSED, OR WHO KNOWS
      11    WHAT, BUT CERTAINLY NOT A SPECIFIC INDICATION OF THE PATIENT
      12    BEING IN PAIN.
      13    Q.  DID YOU SEE ANYTHING THERE THAT WOULD BE INDICATIVE OF
      14    THE NEED OR NECESSITY TO ADMINISTER MORPHINE TO THAT
      15    PATIENT?
      16    A.  I WOULD NOT.
      17    Q.  AGAIN, HOW MUCH WAS THAT PARTICULAR INJECTION?
      18    A.  THAT WAS ANOTHER 10 MILLIGRAMS.
      19    Q.  WERE THERE ANY VITAL SIGNS OF THE PATIENT TAKEN AT 3:30
      20    IN THE MORNING?
      21    A.  NO.
      22    Q.  WHEN IS THE NEXT -- LET ME ASK YOU THIS.  WHEN WAS THE
      23    NEXT NOTE RELATED IN THE RECORD THAT WOULD BE INDICATIVE TO
      24    YOU THAT THIS PATIENT MAY BE SUFFERING THE EFFECTS OF
      25    TOXICITY OF THE MORPHINE?



                                                                       2568



       1    A.  IT'S NOTED AT 6:30 THAT THE PATIENT SEEMS TO HAVE
       2    BEEN -- APPEARED TO BE ASLEEP SINCE RECEIVING THE MORPHINE.
       3    BUT THEN AT 7:30 IT'S NOTED THAT THE RESPIRATORY RATE IS 12.
       4    Q.  CAN YOU COMMENT ON THAT?
       5    A.  THAT'S KIND OF BORDER LINE LOW.  THE PULSE RATE IS 60  Unbelievable.
       6    AND THE NURSE WAS UNABLE TO GET A BLOOD PRESSURE.  THE
       7    PATIENT WASN'T RESPONSIVE TO VERBAL OR TACTILE TOUCH,
       8    MEANING THAT THEY TRIED TO STIMULATE THE PATIENT AND THE
       9    PATIENT WASN'T RESPONSIVE AT ALL.  THE PATIENT WAS UNABLE TO
      10    BLINK HER EYES.  AT THAT POINT THEY FELT THAT THE PATIENT
      11    PROBABLY HAD DIED.                 DIED?  WITH A PULSE AND RESPIRATIONS?
      12    Q.  CAN YOU TELL US, DOCTOR, IN RESPECT TO -- WERE THERE ANY
      13    TESTS ADMINISTERED TO THE PATIENT PRIOR TO THE 7:30 TIME
      14    THAT THAT NOTE IS TAKEN?
      15    A.  THE PATIENT HAD HAD AN ELECTROCARDIOGRAM AND A CHEST
      16    X-RAY ORDERED THE DAY BEFORE AT THE TIME OF ADMISSION.
      17    THOSE WERE ORDERED TO BE DONE THE NEXT MORNING.  SO AT 5:20
      18    IN THE MORNING SHE DID HAVE AN E.K.G.  IN OTHER WORDS, A
      19    HEART TRACING.  THAT SHOWED SOME MARKED ABNORMALITIES AT
      20    THAT POINT.
      21    Q.  CAN YOU CLARIFY WHAT YOU MEAN BY MARKED ABNORMALITIES?
      22    A.  UMM, THE HEART WAS BEATING VERY FAST.  I CAN SAY
      23    PRECISELY WHAT IT WAS.  THE TACHYCARDIA WITH MARKED SINUS
      24    ARRHYTHMIA.  THAT MEANS THE HEART WAS BEATING FAST BUT
      25    IRREGULARLY.  THERE WERE NONSPECIFIC T-WAVE ABNORMALITIES.



                                                                       2569



       1    THAT CAN MEAN THAT THERE IS -- THAT THE HEART ISN'T GETTING
       2    ENOUGH OXYGEN.
       3    Q.  OKAY.  ARE THOSE SIGNS CONSISTENT WITH MORPHINE
       4    TOXICITY?
       5    A.  THEY CERTAINLY WOULD BE.  MORE THE LONG-TERM EFFECTS.
       6    IN OTHER WORDS, IF THE PATIENT ISN'T BREATHING WELL, THE
       7    PATIENT'S BLOOD PRESSURE IS LOW, THE HEART ISN'T GETTING
       8    ENOUGH OXYGEN, THE REACTION OF THE HEART IS TO SHOW THESE
       9    ABNORMALITIES.
      10    Q.  SO WHEN IN FACT WAS THE PATIENT PRONOUNCED DEAD, DO YOU
      11    KNOW?
      12    A.  I BELIEVE IT WASN'T UNTIL ABOUT 8:55 IN THE MORNING.
      13    Q.  WERE THERE ANY OTHER FURTHER NOTES, AFTER THE 7:30 NOTE,
      14    THAT INDICATED TO YOU ANY SIGNS OF MORPHINE TOXICITY?
      15    A.  ONLY AT 8:55 THE PATIENT HAD NO BREATHING AND NO HEART
      16    RATE.
      17    Q.  OKAY.
      18    A.  BUT AT 7:30 THEY THOUGHT THAT THE PATIENT HAD DIED, SO I
      19    GUESS THAT'S EXPECTED.
      20    Q.  NOW, AS TO A CENTRAL NERVOUS SYSTEM DEPRESSANT, IS THAT
      21    CONSISTENT -- OR MORPHINE, IS THAT CONSISTENT WITH THE
      22    SHUTTING DOWN OF THE RESPIRATION SYSTEM?
      23    A.  IT IS.  PARTICULARLY WITH THE MORPHINE-LIKE PAIN
      24    MEDICINES, THE EFFECTS ARE MUCH MORE ON RESPIRATION THAN
      25    JUST THE GENERAL CENTRAL NERVOUS SYSTEM DEPRESSANTS.  SO ONE



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       1    OF THE MOST PROMINENT PROBLEMS WITH A DRUG LIKE MORPHINE IS
       2    RESPIRATORY DEPRESSION, OR A DECREASE IN THE DESIRE TO
       3    BREATHE.
       4    Q.  IN THE DESIRE TO BREATHE?
       5    A.  UH-HUH.
       6    Q.  SO WHAT PORTION OF THE BODY DOES -- I MEAN, HOW DOES IT
       7    IMPACT YOUR DESIRE TO BREATHE?
       8    A.  THERE ARE CERTAIN CENTERS IN THE BRAIN THAT ARE CALLED
       9    THE RESPIRATORY DRIVE CENTER.  MORPHINE HAS A VERY SELECTIVE
      10    EFFECT ON THAT CENTER TO MAKE IT LESS ACTIVE.  SO PATIENTS
      11    WHO HAVE RECEIVED -- THIS IS SOMETHING WE SEE IN THE
      12    OPERATING ROOM.  WE CAN GIVE PATIENTS LARGE DOSES OF A
      13    MEDICINE LIKE FENTANYL OR MORPHINE.  UNLESS WE REMIND THEM
      14    TO BREATHE THEY WON'T.  OF COURSE, WE AT SOME POINT TAKE
      15    OVER THEIR BREATHING FOR THEM.  BUT IT'S A VERY INTERESTING
      16    PHENOMENON.  THEY CAN BE AWAKE AND YET NOT WANTING TO
      17    BREATHE.
      18    Q.  SO ESSENTIALLY YOU JUST DON'T BREATHE?
      19    A.  YES.
      20    Q.  BASED UPON YOUR EXPERIENCE, TRAINING, YOUR EXPERTISE,
      21    YOUR REVIEW OF THESE MEDICAL RECORDS, HAVE YOU FORMED AN
      22    OPINION, BASED UPON A REASONABLE DEGREE OF MEDICAL
      23    CERTAINTY, AS TO THE CAUSE OF DEATH OF ELLEN ANDERSON?
      24             MR. STIRBA:  OBJECTION.  CUMULATIVE.
      25             THE COURT:  OVERRULED.



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       1    Q.  (BY MR. WILSON)  ANSWER THE QUESTION YES OR NO.
       2    A.  YES, I HAVE.
       3    Q.  OKAY.  WHAT IS THAT OPINION, SIR?
       4    A.  I BELIEVE THAT ELLEN ANDERSON SUCCUMBED BECAUSE OF
       5    EXCESSIVE DOSING OF MORPHINE.
       6    Q.  OKAY.  LET'S TURN TO THE NEXT PATIENT, THAT BEING JUDITH
       7    LARSEN.  I WOULD AGAIN CALL YOUR ATTENTION TO WHAT IS MARKED
       8    AS STATE'S EXHIBIT 38 AND ASK YOU IF YOU HAVE FAMILIARIZED
       9    YOURSELF WITH THAT EXHIBIT?
      10    A.  YES, I HAVE.
      11    Q.  AND YOU'VE ALSO -- THIS PERTAINS TO THE MEDICAL RECORDS
      12    OF JUDITH LARSEN, DOES IT NOT?
      13    A.  YES.  I WOULD SAY THIS FAIRLY REPRESENTS THE MEDICATIONS
      14    IN THE MEDICAL RECORDS.
      15    Q.  OKAY.  NOW, THIS EXTENDS OVER A TIME PERIOD FROM
      16    DECEMBER 6TH UP TO JANUARY 3RD.  DOES THAT CORRESPOND WITH
      17    YOUR REVIEW OF THE MEDICAL RECORDS?
      18    A.  YES, IT DOES.
      19    Q.  WHEN WAS SHE ADMITTED TO THE GERO-PSYCH UNIT, SIR?
      20    A.  SHE WAS ADMITTED ON DECEMBER 6TH.
      21    Q.  OKAY.
      22    A.  1995.
      23    Q.  DID YOU REVIEW HER RECORDS AT THAT TIME?  I MEAN, DID
      24    YOU REVIEW HER RECORDS PERTINENT TO THAT TIME?
      25    A.  I DID, YES.



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       1    Q.  AND CAN YOU TELL US, AT THE TIME OF HER ADMISSION,
       2    WHETHER OR NOT YOU FORMED ANY OPINION AS TO WHAT HER
       3    PHYSICAL CONDITION WAS?
       4    A.  THERE SEEMED -- EVEN THOUGH SHE HAD HAD --
       5             MR. STIRBA:  YOUR HONOR, I'M GOING TO OBJECT.  THE
       6    RECORDS INDICATE WHAT HER PHYSICAL CONDITION WAS BASED UPON
       7    THE PEOPLE WHO WERE THERE AT THE TIME.  I DON'T THINK HIS
       8    OPINION AS A PAIN EXPERT IS RELEVANT TO WHAT HER PHYSICAL
       9    CONDITION WAS AT THE TIME.  HE DOESN'T HAVE THAT EXPERTISE.
      10             THE COURT:  LET'S GET TO HIS OPINION AS TO WHAT HE
      11    WAS CALLED FOR.
      12             MR. WILSON:  LET ME ASK IT THIS WAY, THEN.
      13    Q.  (BY MR. WILSON)  WAS THERE ANY DISEASE PROCESSES THAT
      14    YOU WERE AWARE OF WHICH, IN YOUR REVIEW OF THOSE RECORDS,
      15    WOULD BE INDICATIVE OF PAIN?
      16    A.  THERE WERE NOT.
      17    Q.  OKAY.  WERE THERE ANY DISEASE PROCESSES, IN YOUR
      18    OPINION, WHICH WOULD BE REPRESENTATIVE THAT SHE WAS
      19    SUFFERING FROM ANY TERMINAL STATE?
      20    A.  NO.
      21    Q.  IN RESPECT TO THE INITIAL ADMINISTRATION OF THE
      22    MEDICATIONS, CAN YOU TELL US WHAT TYPES OF MEDICATIONS WERE
      23    INITIALLY GIVEN TO HER?  DO YOU WANT TO STEP TO THE BOARD?
      24    A.  MAY I ASK, HAS THE JURY SEEN THIS CHART BEFORE?
      25    Q.  THEY HAVE.



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       1    A.  OKAY.  THESE ARE THE VARIETY OF DIFFERENT MEDICATIONS IN
       2    THE DIFFERENT COLORS.  KLONOPIN, TRAZODONE, SERZONE,
       3    RISPERDAL, ATIVAN.  THIS WOULD REFLECT THE INITIAL
       4    MEDICATIONS THAT SHE RECEIVED, KLONOPIN, TRAZODONE, ATIVAN.
       5    Q.  NOW, SHE APPARENTLY RECEIVED THOSE OVER A FAIRLY
       6    SIGNIFICANT PERIOD OF TIME, IS THAT CORRECT?
       7    A.  SHE DID.
       8    Q.  AND IN RESPECT TO THOSE PARTICULAR MEDICATIONS, DOCTOR,
       9    AND YOUR REVIEW OF THE MEDICAL RECORDS AS TO -- WOULD THESE
      10    MEDICATIONS, IN YOUR OPINION, HAVE ANY SEDATING SIDE
      11    EFFECTS?
      12    A.  YES, THEY WOULD.
      13    Q.  OKAY.  AND DO THEY HAVE ANY CENTRAL NERVOUS SYSTEM
      14    DEPRESSANT SIDE EFFECTS?
      15    A.  YES, THEY WOULD.
      16    Q.  OKAY.  GO AHEAD AND TAKE YOUR SEAT, IF YOU WOULD,
      17    PLEASE.
      18    A.  (WITNESS COMPLIED.)
      19    Q.  THE DOSAGE AMOUNTS THAT ARE LISTED OVER THAT PARTICULAR
      20    TIME FRAME, DOES THAT BEAR ANY SIGNIFICANCE IN YOUR MIND?
      21    A.  UMM, WELL, THERE WERE CERTAINLY, AT LEAST INITIALLY, AN
      22    UPWARD TREND IN THE AMOUNT OF MEDICATION THAT SHE RECEIVED
      23    OVER THE FIRST FEW DAYS.  I THINK THAT, DEPENDING ON WHAT
      24    SORT OF REACTION SHE HAD TO THAT, WOULD CERTAINLY BE AN
      25    IMPORTANT PART OF THIS.



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       1    Q.  OKAY.  IN YOUR REVIEW OF THE RECORDS, DID YOU SEE ANY
       2    SIGNS OR SYMPTOMS WHICH WOULD INDICATE TO YOU THAT THIS
       3    PATIENT WAS OVERLY SEDATED?
       4             MR. STIRBA:  YOUR HONOR, I'M GOING TO OBJECT.
       5    THAT'S VAGUE AND AMBIGUOUS.
       6             THE COURT:  DO YOU WANT TO REPHRASE THAT?  I DON'T
       7    KNOW IF THAT'S AN ADEQUATE QUESTION.
       8    Q.  (BY MR. WILSON)  LET ME REPHRASE IT THIS WAY.  DID YOU
       9    SEE ANY SIGNS OR SYMPTOMS, RELATED TO THIS PARTICULAR
      10    PATIENT, THAT SHE WAS HAVING ANY ADVERSE REACTION TO THE
      11    ADMINISTRATION OF THESE PARTICULAR MEDICATIONS?
      12    A.  ON DECEMBER 8TH, AND THIS WOULD BE TWO DAYS AFTER
      13    ADMISSION, THE NURSE'S NOTES REFLECT THAT THE PATIENT SLEPT
      14    THE FULL SHIFT.  THIS WAS AT NIGHT, SO I GUESS THAT'S
      15    PROBABLY OKAY.
      16         ON DECEMBER 9TH THE NOTES WOULD MENTION, THOUGH, THAT
      17    IN THIS SITUATION SHE WAS SLEEPING ALL DAY.  DECEMBER 10TH,
      18    SOMNOLENT MOST OF THE SHIFT.  IN OTHER WORDS, VERY SLEEPY
      19    MOST OF THE SHIFT.
      20    Q.  DID THERE COME A TIME DURING THIS TIME PERIOD THAT THE
      21    PATIENT SEEMED TO IMPROVE?
      22    A.  MORE OR LESS IN THE MIDDLE OF THIS, SOMEWHERE ALONG THE
      23    WAY THERE, SHE SEEMED TO IMPROVE.  THE REASON FOR THAT, I
      24    THINK ON DECEMBER 14TH --
      25             MR. STIRBA:  I THINK THE QUESTION WAS WAS THERE A



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       1    TIME PERIOD WHEN SHE SEEMED TO IMPROVE.  I THINK THE DOCTOR
       2    ANSWERED IT.
       3             THE COURT:  SUSTAINED.
       4    Q.  (BY MR. WILSON)  IN RESPECT TO THAT PERIOD OF TIME, DID
       5    YOU OBSERVE ANY SIGNS OR COMPLAINTS IN THE MEDICAL RECORDS
       6    THAT YOU REVIEWED CONCERNING PAIN?
       7             MR. STIRBA:  CAN WE HAVE SOME MORE FOUNDATION?
       8    DURING WHAT PERIOD OF TIME?
       9             THE COURT:  WHICH DAYS?
      10    Q.  (BY MR. WILSON)  LET'S EXTEND IT FROM THE TIME PERIOD
      11    OF THE 6TH OF DECEMBER UP TO, SAY, THE 24TH OF DECEMBER?
      12    A.  THERE WAS NO INDICATION IN THE RECORD THAT PAIN WAS A
      13    PROBLEM.
      14    Q.  OKAY.  CAN YOU TELL US WHETHER OR NOT THIS PARTICULAR
      15    PATIENT RECEIVED ANY INJECTION OF MORPHINE ON THE 25TH OF
      16    DECEMBER?
      17    A.  SHE DID.  OR SHE HAD -- LET ME CHECK HERE.  (PAUSE.)  ON
      18    THE 25TH SHE DID RECEIVE TWO SMALL DOSES OF MORPHINE.  TWO
      19    MILLIGRAM DOSES ABOUT TWO HOURS APART.  I'M SORRY, THREE
      20    DOSES OVER ABOUT A FOUR HOUR PERIOD.
      21    Q.  OKAY.  OVER ABOUT A FOUR HOUR PERIOD?
      22    A.  YES.
      23    Q.  DO YOU KNOW WHAT THAT WAS FOR?
      24    A.  I'M NOT AWARE THERE WAS A SPECIFIC INDICATION FOR IT.
      25    Q.  OKAY.                 See indication>>



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       1    A.  THE NOTE SAID THAT PATIENT BECAME MORE ALERT AS THE
       2    SHIFT PROGRESSED AND SHE WAS MEDICATED WITH MORPHINE.
       3    Q.  WHEN WAS THE NEXT DOSAGE OF MORPHINE, ACCORDING TO YOUR
       4    REVIEW OF THE RECORDS?
       5    A.  THE PATIENT RECEIVED ONE MORE DOSE ON THE MORNING OF THE
       6    26TH; ANOTHER TWO MILLIGRAM DOSE.
       7    Q.  WAS THERE ANY PARTICULAR EVENT, ACUTE EVENT, THAT
       8    OCCURRED IN THE RECORDS THAT YOU REVIEWED ABOUT THAT TIME?
       9    A.  ON THE MORNING OF THE 26TH THE PATIENT WAS THOUGHT TO
      10    HAVE HAD A SEIZURE.
      11    Q.  OKAY.
      12    A.  AND SHE WAS TREATED AS IF THAT HAD HAPPENED.
      13    Q.  OKAY.  IS MORPHINE USED IN THE TREATMENT OF SEIZURES?
      14    A.  NO, IT'S NOT.
      15    Q.  OKAY.  IN RESPECT TO THE USE OF MORPHINE IN THAT
      16    CONTEXT, IN A SUSPECTED SEIZURE, WOULD MORPHINE CREATE ANY
      17    PROBLEMS?
      18             MR. STIRBA:  YOUR HONOR, I'M GOING TO OBJECT TO THE
      19    QUESTION.  I DON'T THINK THERE'S BEEN A FOUNDATION LAID BY
      20    THIS DOCTOR THAT THE MORPHINE WAS USED IN THE CONTEXT OF
      21    TREATING THE SEIZURE.
      22             THE COURT:  SUSTAINED.
      23    Q.  (BY MR. WILSON)  LET ME JUST PHRASE IT THIS WAY.  I'LL
      24    STRIKE THAT, RATHER.  LET'S JUST MOVE ON.  WHEN IS THE NEXT
      25    TIME MORPHINE IS USED?



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       1    A.  UMM, THE NEXT DOSE THAT IS SHOWN ON THE CHART AND IN MY
       2    RECORDS WOULD BE ON DECEMBER 30TH.
       3    Q.  OKAY.  CAN YOU TELL US, BETWEEN DECEMBER 27TH, OR 26TH,
       4    EXCUSE ME, BETWEEN DECEMBER 26TH AND THE 30TH, WERE THERE
       5    ANY INDICATIONS IN THE RECORD OF SIGNS OR SYMPTOMS OF PAIN?
       6    A.  THERE WERE NOT.
       7    Q.  ON THE 30TH ITSELF DID YOU SEE ANY RECORD THAT WOULD
       8    EXHIBIT SIGNS OR SYMPTOMS OF PAIN?
       9    A.  NO.
      10    Q.  OKAY.  DO YOU KNOW WHY THE MORPHINE WAS ADMINISTERED ON
      11    THAT PARTICULAR DAY?
      12             MR. STIRBA:  OBJECTION, YOUR HONOR.  THE QUESTION
      13    IS AMBIGUOUS AS TO WHY.  HE CAN TESTIFY AS TO WHAT THE
      14    RECORDS SHOW.
      15             THE COURT:  HE'S ASKING HIM IF HE KNOWS WHY.
      16    OVERRULED.
      17    Q.  (BY MR. WILSON)  FROM YOUR REVIEW OF THE RECORDS, DOES
      18    IT INDICATE THE PURPOSE FOR THE ADMINISTRATION OF THE
      19    MORPHINE?
      20    A.  IT APPEARS THAT ON THE MORNING OF THE 30TH THE PATIENT
      21    VOMITED AND THE VOMITUS APPEARED TO CONTAIN BLOOD,
      22    SUGGESTING THAT THE PATIENT WAS BLEEDING INTERNALLY.  WITH
      23    THAT, DR. WEITZEL APPROACHED THE FAMILY AND PRESENTED,
      24    APPARENTLY, THAT HE THOUGHT THE PATIENT'S PHYSICAL CONDITION
      25    HAD GONE WAY DOWNHILL AND THAT MORPHINE OUGHT TO BE GIVEN



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       1    FOR COMFORT CARE.
       2    Q.  DID YOU SEE ANYTHING IN THE MEDICAL RECORDS AT THAT TIME
       3    WHICH WOULD INDICATE TO YOU A MEDICAL NECESSITY OF
       4    PRESCRIBING MORPHINE?
       5    A.  ALL THE NOTES INDICATE THAT THE PATIENT IS UNRESPONSIVE.
       6    IT DOESN'T REALLY SEEM THAT THE PATIENT -- THAT THERE'S ANY
       7    INDICATION FOR GIVING THE MORPHINE IN THE CHART.
       8    Q.  DID YOU SEE ANYTHING IN THE MEDICAL RECORD WHICH WOULD
       9    BE INDICATIVE TO YOU THAT THIS PATIENT WAS IN A TERMINAL
      10    STATE?
      11    A.  THE PATIENT AT THIS TIME WAS HEAVILY SEDATED, OR
      12    APPEARED TO BE HEAVILY SEDATED FROM MEDICATIONS RECEIVED.
      13    THAT SEEMED TO BE A LARGE CONTRIBUTOR TO THE POOR OUTLOOK.
      14             MR. STIRBA:  YOUR HONOR, I'M NOT SO SURE HE'S
      15    ANSWERING THE QUESTION.  WHAT TIME PERIOD, THE 30TH, THE
      16    29TH, THE 31ST?  IT'S VERY CRITICAL TESTIMONY.
      17             THE COURT:  WHY DON'T YOU REPHRASE THE QUESTION.
      18             MR. WILSON:  I'LL REPHRASE THE QUESTION.
      19    Q.  (BY MR. WILSON)  AS TO THE 30TH OF DECEMBER, DOCTOR,
      20    DID YOU SEE ANYTHING IN THE MEDICAL RECORDS WHICH WOULD
      21    INDICATE THAT THIS PATIENT WAS IN A TERMINAL STATE?  MAYBE I
      22    BETTER ASK A PREDICATE QUESTION TO THAT.  WHAT DOES THE TERM
      23    TERMINAL MEAN?
      24    A.  IT MEANS THAT WITHOUT -- I MEAN EVEN WITH MEDICAL
      25    INTERVENTION THE PATIENT WILL NOT RECOVER FROM THEIR MEDICAL



                                                                       2579



       1    PROBLEMS.
       2    Q.  OKAY.
       3    A.  IT GENERALLY IMPLIES A SHORT TERM NATURE OF THIS
       4    DETERIORATION.
       5    Q.  OKAY.  AND WHEN WE SPEAK OF SHORT TERM, WHAT ARE WE
       6    TALKING ABOUT TIMEWISE?
       7    A.  PROBABLY HOURS TO DAYS.
       8    Q.  HOURS TO DAYS.  OKAY.  AGAIN, THE QUESTION IS ON
       9    DECEMBER THE 30TH DID YOU SEE ANYTHING IN THE MEDICAL RECORD
      10    WHICH WOULD INDICATE TO YOU THAT THIS PATIENT WAS TERMINAL?
      11    A.  NOT REALLY, NO.
      12    Q.  OKAY.  DID YOU SEE ANYTHING IN THE MEDICAL RECORD
      13    INDICATIVE OF PAIN ON THAT PARTICULAR DAY?
      14    A.  NO, I DID NOT.
      15    Q.  NOW, LET'S GO THROUGH THE TIME PERIOD EXTENDING FROM, I
      16    THINK, DECEMBER THE 30TH, OR DECEMBER 31ST, RATHER, UP TO
      17    JANUARY 3RD.  HAVE YOU REVIEWED THOSE MEDICAL RECORDS?
      18    A.  YES, I HAVE.
      19    Q.  OKAY.  AGAIN, THE QUESTION WOULD BE, DURING THAT TIME
      20    PERIOD, DOCTOR, DID YOU SEE ANY EVIDENCE, OR I SHOULD SAY
      21    SIGNS OR SYMPTOMS IN THE MEDICAL RECORDS THAT YOU REVIEWED
      22    WHICH WOULD INDICATE TO YOU THAT THIS PATIENT WAS SUFFERING
      23    PAIN?
      24    A.  I FOUND NO INDICATION OF THAT.  THE PATIENT SEEMED TO BE
      25    MINIMALLY RESPONSIVE TO ANY SORT OF STIMULUS DURING THIS


Indication of pain>>  Indication of pain>>  Indication of pain>>  Indication of pain>>
Indication of pain>>  Indication of pain>>  Indication of pain>>  Indication of pain>>
                                                                       2580



       1    TIME.
       2    Q.  OKAY.  DID YOU SEE ANY EVIDENCE -- EXCUSE ME.  STRIKE
       3    THAT.  DID YOU SEE ANY SIGNS OR SYMPTOMS THAT THIS PATIENT
       4    WAS SUFFERING FROM MORPHINE TOXICITY DURING THAT TIME FRAME?
       5    A.  WELL, THE PATIENT REMAINED, AS I SAID, UNRESPONSIVE.  SO
       6    CERTAINLY ONE SIGN OF MORPHINE TOXICITY WOULD BE
       7    UNCONSCIOUSNESS.  THE PATIENT'S BREATHING RATE WAS SLOW.  IT
       8    WAS AROUND -- WELL, THE FEW TIMES IT'S NOTED HERE IT WAS
       9    AROUND 12, WHICH IS ON THE LOW SIDE.
      10    Q.  YOU INDICATE THE FEW TIMES IT'S NOTED?
      11    A.  YES.
      12    Q.  WAS IT NOTED OR MONITORED ON A REGULAR BASIS, DOCTOR,
      13    ACCORDING TO THE MEDICAL RECORDS?
      14    A.  IT APPEARS THAT AT MOST IT WAS ABOUT EVERY EIGHT HOURS.
      15    Q.  OKAY.  WHAT TYPE OF DOSAGES WAS THIS PATIENT RECEIVING
      16    ON THE 31ST OF DECEMBER?
      17    A.  THE PATIENT ON THE 31ST WAS RECEIVING FIVE MILLIGRAMS OF
      18    MORPHINE ROUND THE CLOCK EVERY FOUR HOURS.  SO AUTOMATICALLY
      19    EVERY FOUR HOURS SHE WOULD GET ANOTHER FIVE MILLIGRAMS.
      20    Q.  DID THAT DOSAGE EVER INCREASE?
      21    A.  THERE WAS AN EXTRA FIVE MILLIGRAM DOSE THROWN IN THERE.
      22    SO IN ADDITION TO THE REGULAR DOSING THE PATIENT DID RECEIVE
      23    AN EXTRA ONE.
      24    Q.  OKAY.  REFERRING TO THE 1ST OF JANUARY?
      25    A.  THEN ON JANUARY 1ST THE INTERVAL FOR DOSING WAS CHANGED



                                                                       2581



       1    FROM FIVE MILLIGRAMS EVERY FOUR HOURS TO FIVE MILLIGRAMS
       2    EVERY THREE HOURS.  SO EFFECTIVELY INCREASING THE DOSE THAT
       3    THE PATIENT WAS RECEIVING.
       4    Q.  IN RESPECT TO THAT PARTICULAR TYPE OF INTERVAL, DOES
       5    THAT BEAR ANY SIGNIFICANCE IN YOUR MIND?
       6    A.  WELL, THE FOUR HOUR DOSE, IN THE NORMAL CLINICAL
       7    SETTING, IS GENERALLY CONSIDERED STANDARD FOR A DOSE OF
       8    MORPHINE TO RUN ITS COURSE.  IT'S INJECTED OR ADMINISTERED
       9    AND FOUR HOURS LATER IT'S KIND OF ON THE DOWN SLOPE AND IT'S
      10    TIME TO GIVE ANOTHER DOSE.
      11         IF IT'S GIVEN THREE HOURS APART, THEN THE DOSES WILL
      12    BEGIN TO PILE ON TOP OF ONE ANOTHER.  THE MORPHINE IS NOT
      13    SUFFICIENTLY CLEARED, SO THE NEXT DOSE IS GOING TO HAVE A
      14    GREATER EFFECT AND THE NEXT ONE EVEN GREATER AND IT WILL
      15    START TO PILE UP.  Even the first-year med student could not fail to be appalled.
      16    Q.  THAT WAS WHAT OCCURRED ON THE 31ST OF -- EXCUSE ME, THE 
      17    1ST OF JANUARY?
      18    A.  YES.
      19    Q.  OKAY.
      20    A.  AND SHE DID GET SOME EXTRA DOSES THROWN IN THERE ALSO,
      21    SO ADDITIONAL DOSES.
      22    Q.  IN RESPECT TO THE 1ST OF JANUARY, DOCTOR, CAN YOU TELL
      23    US WAS THERE ANY INDICATIONS IN THE MEDICAL RECORD RELATIVE
      24    TO ANY COMPLAINTS OR SIGNS AND SYMPTOMS OF PAIN?
      25    A.  THERE SEEMED TO BE NO CLEAR INDICATION THAT THE PATIENT



                                                                       2582



       1    WAS HAVING PAIN.
       2    Q.  OKAY.  WAS THERE ANY SIGNS OR SYMPTOMS THAT THIS PATIENT
       3    WAS SUFFERING FROM ANY TOXICITY FROM THE INJECTIONS OF
       4    MORPHINE?
       5    A.  AGAIN, THE PATIENT WAS UNRESPONSIVE.  THE BREATHING RATE
       6    WAS SLOW.  BLOOD PRESSURE WAS FAIRLY NORMAL, BUT THAT
       7    DOESN'T NECESSARILY FIT ONE WAY OR ANOTHER.  SO THERE
       8    DEFINITELY WERE SIGNS THERE THAT THE PATIENT IS BEING
       9    AFFECTED BY THE DRUG.
      10    Q.  GO TO JANUARY 2ND.  WERE THERE ADDITIONAL -- WAS THERE
      11    ADDITIONAL MORPHINE ADMINISTERED ON THAT DAY?
      12    A.  IT APPEARS ON THE 2ND THAT THE PATIENT CONTINUED TO GET
      13    THE EVERY THREE HOUR DOSING OF THE MORPHINE, SO IT WAS GIVEN
      14    AT -- WITH EXCESSIVE FREQUENCY.
      15    Q.  WAS THERE ANY MORPHINE ORDERED BUT WITHHELD ON THAT
      16    PARTICULAR DAY?   See withheld morphine>>
      17    A.  (PAUSE.)  I DON'T SEE ANY THAT WERE WITHHELD, NO.
      18    Q.  OKAY.  LET'S GO TO THE 3RD OF JANUARY.  CAN YOU TELL US,
      19    DID THE PATIENT DIE ON THAT DAY?
      20    A.  YES, SHE DID.
      21    Q.  WHAT TIME DID SHE DIE?
      22    A.  IT WAS ABOUT EIGHT O'CLOCK IN THE EVENING.  8:10 TO BE
      23    EXACT.
      24    Q.  ON THAT PARTICULAR DATE, DOCTOR, DID SHE RECEIVE ANY
      25    INJECTIONS OF MORPHINE?



                                                                       2583



       1    A.  UMM, YES.  THE DOSE OF MORPHINE ON THAT DAY, LATER IN
       2    THE DAY -- THROUGH MOST OF THE DAY THE PATIENT CONTINUED TO
       3    RECEIVE THE FIVE MILLIGRAMS EVERY THREE HOURS.  BUT THEN AT
       4    ABOUT 6:30 IN THE EVENING THAT DOSE WAS INCREASED, DOUBLED.
       5    INCREASED TO 10 MILLIGRAMS EVERY THREE HOURS ROUND THE
       6    CLOCK.
       7    Q.  WERE THERE ADDITIONAL DOSAGES GIVEN TO THE PATIENT ON
       8    THAT PARTICULAR DAY?
       9    A.  YES.  IN ADDITION TO THE 10 MILLIGRAMS EVERY THREE
      10    HOURS, THE PATIENT RECEIVED ANOTHER 25 MILLIGRAMS AT TEN IN
      11    THE MORNING.  SHE RECEIVED AN ADDITIONAL 15 MILLIGRAMS AT
      12    6:30 IN THE EVENING AND 30 MILLIGRAMS AT, I BELIEVE, ELEVEN
      13    O'CLOCK.
      14    Q.  IN THE MORNING?
      15    A.  I BELIEVE SO, YES.
      16    Q.  OKAY.
      17    A.  SO SHE WAS NOT ONLY GETTING A LOT OF MEDICATION ON A
      18    REGULAR BASIS, BUT SHE WAS GETTING WHAT I WOULD CONSIDER TO
      19    BE VERY LARGE DOSES INTERMITTENTLY ON TOP OF THAT.
      20    Q.  DID YOU SEE ANY SIGNS OR SYMPTOMS OF MORPHINE TOXICITY
      21    ON THE 3RD OF JANUARY?
      22    A.  AGAIN, THE PATIENT WAS UNRESPONSIVE.  BLOOD PRESSURE IS
      23    VERY LOW.  I'M SORRY, THE HEART RATE -- I JUMPED AHEAD OF
      24    MYSELF.  IT'S LISTED HERE THAT THE FINGERS WERE CYANOTIC,
      25    WHICH COULD BE AN INDICATION OF POOR CIRCULATION OR LACK OF



                                                                       2584



       1    OXYGEN.  THE PATIENT DOESN'T RESPOND.  AND THEN FINALLY, AT
       2    8:10, THE PATIENT IS NOT -- IT SAYS PATIENT WITHOUT VITAL
       3    SIGNS.  SO NO BLOOD PRESSURE, NO RESPIRATORY, NO HEART RATE.
       4    Q.  OKAY.  BASED ON YOUR EXPERIENCE, TRAINING AND EXPERTISE,
       5    AND FROM YOUR REVIEW OF THESE MEDICAL RECORDS, DO YOU HAVE
       6    AN OPINION, OR HAVE YOU FORMED AN OPINION, BASED TO A
       7    REASONABLE DEGREE OF MEDICAL CERTAINTY, AS TO THE CAUSE OF
       8    DEATH OF JUDITH LARSEN?  ANSWER THAT YES OR NO.
       9    A.  YES.
      10    Q.  OKAY.  AND WHAT IS THAT OPINION?
      11    A.  I BELIEVE THAT THE PATIENT ULTIMATELY DIED FROM
      12    EXCESSIVE MORPHINE DOSES, BUT WAS WEAKENED BY THE CUMULATIVE
      13    EFFECTS OF SEDATING MEDICATIONS UP UNTIL THE TIME THE
      14    MORPHINE WAS GIVEN.
      15    Q.  LET'S TURN TO THE RECORDS OF MARY CRANE.  I SHOW YOU
      16    WHAT HAS BEEN MARKED AS STATE'S EXHIBIT NUMBER 36 AND ASK
      17    YOU IF CAN IDENTIFY THAT EXHIBIT, PLEASE?
      18    A.  THIS, AGAIN, IS A GRAPHIC PRESENTATION OF THE
      19    MEDICATIONS RECEIVED BY MARY CRANE DURING HER
      20    HOSPITALIZATION AT THE GERO-PSYCH UNIT.
      21    Q.  ARE THOSE MEDICATIONS LISTED THERE CENTRAL -- DO THEY
      22    HAVE -- LET ME START OVER.  THE MEDICATIONS LISTED THERE,
      23    HAVE YOU REVIEWED THEM?
      24    A.  YES, I HAVE.
      25    Q.  AND DO THOSE MEDICATIONS INDICATE MEDICATIONS WHICH HAVE



                                                                       2585



       1    SEDATING SIDE EFFECTS?
       2    A.  YES, THEY ARE.
       3    Q.  OKAY.  THERE'S ALSO A MEDICATION ON THERE THAT IS
       4    DESIGNATED AS THE DURAGESIC PATCH, IS THAT CORRECT?
       5    A.  YES.
       6    Q.  THAT IS THE MEDICATION YOU PREVIOUSLY TESTIFIED TO AS
       7    FENTANYL?
       8    A.  YES, IT IS.
       9    Q.  OKAY.  IN THE INTEREST OF TIME, I'M JUST GOING TO ASK
      10    YOU, DOCTOR, YOU REVIEWED THESE RECORDS IN RESPECT TO THE
      11    MEDICATIONS THAT WERE ADMINISTERED TO MARY CRANE EXTENDING
      12    OVER THE TIME PERIOD FROM DECEMBER 28TH THROUGH JANUARY 7TH,
      13    IS THAT CORRECT?
      14    A.  YES, IT IS.
      15    Q.  CAN YOU TELL US, FIRST OF ALL, DURING THAT PARTICULAR
      16    TIME PERIOD DID YOU SEE IN THE MEDICAL RECORD ITSELF ANY
      17    SIGNS OR SYMPTOMS WHICH WOULD BE INDICATIVE OF PAIN?
      18    A.  IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE THE PATIENT DID HAVE A HISTORY
      19    OF COMPLAINING OF HEADACHES AND DID HAVE A HISTORY OF LOW
      20    BACK PAIN PRIOR TO COMING INTO THE HOSPITAL.  AS FAR AS
      21    CLEAR SIGNS OF PAIN, YOU KNOW, ONCE SHE WAS IN THE CARE
      22    CENTER HERE THERE WERE MINIMAL INDICATIONS OF THAT, IF ANY.
      23    Q.  IN RESPECT TO THE RECORDS YOU REVIEWED PRIOR TO HER
      24    ADMISSION, YOU INDICATE THAT SHE HAD SUFFERED FROM SOME KIND
      25    OF CHRONIC BACK PAIN?



                                                                       2586



       1    A.  YES.
       2    Q.  OKAY.  CAN YOU TELL US, DID YOU OBSERVE IN THOSE RECORDS
       3    AS TO HOW THAT BACK PAIN WAS MEDICATED?
       4    A.  USUALLY WITH TYLENOL.  SHE COMPLAINED OF LOW BACK PAIN,
       5    HEADACHES.  I THINK THERE WAS A SHOULDER PAIN COMPLAINT
       6    ALSO.  REGARDLESS OF WHICH OF THESE SHE COMPLAINED OF, MOST
       7    OF THE TIME TYLENOL TOOK CARE OF THE PAIN. She got Lortab every day.
       8    Q.  OKAY.  DID YOU SEE ANYTHING, RELATED TO THE MEDICAL
       9    RECORDS YOU OBSERVED, AFTER ADMISSION WHICH WOULD INDICATE
      10    TO YOU ANY MEDICAL NECESSITY FOR TREATMENT WITH MORPHINE?
      11    A.  NO, I DID NOT.
      12    Q.  DID YOU SEE ANY SIGNS OR SYMPTOMS IN THE MEDICAL RECORD
      13    OF PAIN WHICH WOULD INDICATE TO YOU THE NECESSITY OF USING
      14    THE DURAGESIC PATCH?
      15    A.  NO, I DID NOT.  See one>>  See another>>  And another>>  (All ON Duragesic)
      16    Q.  OKAY.  IN RESPECT TO THIS PARTICULAR PATIENT, DOCTOR,
      17    CAN YOU TELL US, FIRST OF ALL, THE EFFECTIVE TIME PERIOD A
      18    DURAGESIC PATCH IS -- MAYBE I NEED TO REPHRASE THIS.
      19         JUST EXPLAIN TO US AGAIN WHAT A DURAGESIC PATCH IS, HOW
      20    IT WORKS?
      21    A.  AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, THE DURAGESIC PATCH CONTAINS THE
      22    NARCOTIC FENTANYL AND IS PLACED ON THE SKIN.  THE DRUG GOES
      23    THROUGH THE SKIN INTO THE BLOODSTREAM AND THAT'S HOW IT
      24    CAUSES ITS EFFECTS.
      25         IT'S A UNIQUE DOSE FORM IN THAT IT TAKES PROBABLY



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       1    TWO-THIRDS OF A DAY, SOMETHING LIKE 17 OR 18 HOURS, ONCE
       2    IT'S PLACED ON THE SKIN FOR THE BLOOD LEVELS TO BUILD UP TO
       3    WHATEVER LEVEL THEY'RE GOING TO GET.  IN OTHER WORDS, TO
       4    ACHIEVE WHATEVER EFFECT THEY MAY.  SO IT'S A VERY SLOW SORT
       5    OF A DOSE FORM.  IT'S RATHER HARD TO REGULATE, ALSO,
       6    PARTICULARLY TO BEGIN WITH.  SO, IN OTHER WORDS, IF YOU PUT
       7    THE PATCH ON IT'S LIKE 18 HOURS LATER WHEN YOU CAN ASSESS
       8    HOW WELL IT'S WORKING AND WHAT YOUR MAXIMUM EFFECTS ARE
       9    GOING TO BE.
      10    Q.  OKAY.  DO YOU KNOW WHAT TYPE OF DURAGESIC PATCH WAS
      11    PLACED ON THIS PARTICULAR PATIENT?
      12    A.  SHE INITIALLY HAD A 25-MICROGRAM PER HOUR PATCH PLACED,
      13    WHICH IS THE LOWEST CONCENTRATION.  BUT THEN ABOUT, I
      14    BELIEVE, THREE HOURS LATER THAT 25-MICROGRAM PATCH WAS
      15    CHANGED TO A 50-MICROGRAM PATCH.
      16    Q.  WERE THERE FURTHER PATCHES THAT WERE ADMINISTERED OVER
      17    THIS PERIOD OF TIME?
      18    A.  EVENTUALLY SHE WAS PLACED ON A 75-MICROGRAM PATCH.
      19    Q.  AND WHEN DID THAT OCCUR, TO YOUR REVIEW?
      20    A.  LET ME LOOK AT MY NOTES HERE.  (PAUSE.)  JANUARY 3RD SHE
      21    WAS ON THE 50.  ON JANUARY 4TH SHE WAS ON 75.  SHE REMAINED
      22    ON THAT THROUGH THE REST OF THE HOSPITALIZATION.
      23    Q.  OKAY.  SO YOU SAY THE EFFECTIVENESS OF THAT PATCH IS
      24    SOME 18 HOURS AFTER THE PATCH IS PLACED ON THE INDIVIDUAL?
      25    A.  YES.  THE MAXIMUM EFFECT.



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       1    Q.  OKAY.  AND IT LASTS FOR HOW LONG?
       2    A.  EACH OF THE PATCHES WILL LAST ABOUT THREE DAYS.
       3    Q.  THE QUESTION I HAVE, WHEN DID THIS PATIENT PASS AWAY?
       4    A.  THE PATIENT DIED ON JANUARY 8TH.  I THINK IT WAS VERY
       5    EARLY ON JANUARY 8TH.  PERHAPS LATE ON THE 7TH, BUT RIGHT
       6    AROUND MIDNIGHT ON THE 8TH.
       7    Q.  CAN YOU TELL US WHETHER OR NOT YOU OBSERVED DURING THIS
       8    TIME PERIOD THAT SHE'S ON -- FROM, AGAIN, DECEMBER 28TH UP
       9    UNTIL THE 7TH OF JANUARY, WHETHER SHE EXHIBITED ANY SIGNS OR
      10    SYMPTOMS RELATED TO TOXICITY FROM EITHER THE DURAGESIC PATCH
      11    OR THE MORPHINE INJECTIONS?
      12    A.  (PAUSE.)  THERE ARE NOTATIONS OF THE PATIENT BEING
      13    LETHARGIC, NONRESPONSIVE.  SHE WAS REQUIRING SUPPLEMENTAL
      14    OXYGEN, SO HER BREATHING WAS DECREASED IF SHE WAS REQUIRING
      15    OXYGEN.  ON THE 7TH SHE'S DESCRIBED AS BEING LETHARGIC ALL
      16    SHIFT.  HER BLOOD OXYGEN SATURATIONS AT THAT TIME WERE IN
      17    THE 70 TO 80 RANGE, WHICH IS REALLY NOT COMPATIBLE WITH
      18    LIFE.  IT'S MUCH LOWER THAN WHAT WOULD SUSTAIN ANY SORT OF
      19    NORMAL BODY FUNCTIONS.  SHE'S DESCRIBED AS CYANOTIC, WHICH
      20    WOULD JUST REFLECT NOT MUCH OXYGEN IN THE BLOOD.  AND THEN
      21    SHORTLY AFTER THAT IS WHEN SHE DIED.
      22    Q.  OKAY.  DOCTOR, BASED UPON YOUR EXPERIENCE AND TRAINING,
      23    AND YOUR EXPERTISE AND YOUR REVIEW OF THESE RECORDS, HAVE
      24    YOU FORMED AN OPINION, BASED UPON A REASONABLE DEGREE OF
      25    MEDICAL CERTAINTY, AS TO THE CAUSE OF DEATH OF MARY CRANE?



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       1    ANSWER THAT YES OR NO.
       2    A.  YES.
       3    Q.  AND WHAT IS THAT OPINION, SIR?
       4    A.  I FEEL THAT MARY CRANE WAS ADVERSELY AFFECTED BY A
       5    NUMBER OF THE CENTRAL NERVOUS SYSTEM DRUGS THAT SHE
       6    RECEIVED.  SHE SUFFERED MEDICAL COMPLICATIONS, INCLUDING
       7    ASPIRATION OF PNEUMONIA BECAUSE OF THE MEDICATIONS.  SHE
       8    ULTIMATELY SUCCUMBED BECAUSE OF LARGE DOSES OF NARCOTIC.
       9    Q.  THOSE NARCOTICS BEING?
      10    A.  FENTANYL AND MORPHINE.
      11    Q.  OKAY.  THANK YOU, DOCTOR.  I SHOW YOU WHAT'S BEEN MARKED
      12    AS STATE'S EXHIBIT 37.  I'LL ASK YOU IF YOU HAVE HAD
      13    OCCASION TO REVIEW THAT PARTICULAR EXHIBIT?
      14    A.  I HAVE.
      15    Q.  CAN YOU TELL US, IN RESPECT TO YOUR REVIEW, DOES THAT --
      16    THE MEDICATIONS THAT ARE LISTED THERE, DOES THAT COMPORT
      17    WITH THE NOTES AND REVIEW THAT YOU MADE OF THE MEDICAL
      18    RECORD AT THE HOSPITAL?
      19    A.  YES, IT DOES.
      20    Q.  OKAY.  CAN YOU ALSO TELL US WHETHER OR NOT YOU REVIEWED
      21    ANY OTHER NURSING HOME RECORDS IN CONNECTION WITH LYDIA
      22    SMITH?
      23    A.  YES, I DID.
      24    Q.  CAN YOU TELL US, DOCTOR, IN YOUR OPINION, BASED UPON
      25    THOSE REVIEWS, AT THE TIME OF HER ADMISSION WAS SHE



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       1    SUFFERING FROM ANY MEDICAL CONDITION OR SIGNS OR SYMPTOMS
       2    WHICH EVIDENCED THAT SHE WAS SUFFERING ANY PAIN?
       3    A.  NO, THERE WAS NO INDICATION OF THAT.
       4    Q.  OKAY.  CAN YOU TELL US AS TO WHETHER OR NOT SHE WAS
       5    SUFFERING FROM ANY CONDITION, FROM YOUR REVIEW, THAT YOU
       6    WOULD CATEGORIZE AS TERMINAL?
       7    A.  THERE DID NOT SEEM TO BE ANY INDICATION OF THAT EITHER.
       8    SHE WAS MEDICALLY STABLE.  !!
       9    Q.  NOW, YOU'VE REVIEWED THE REGIMEN OF TREATMENT THAT WAS
      10    ADMINISTERED TO THIS PATIENT OVER THIS COURSE OF TIME AND
      11    CAN YOU TELL US WHAT TYPES OF MEDICATIONS SHE WAS
      12    ADMINISTERED?
      13    A.  AGAIN, SHE WAS ADMINISTERED A WHOLE RANGE OF DIFFERENT
      14    MEDICINES.  RISPERDAL, THAT'S A TYPICAL ANTIPSYCHOTIC.
      15    HALDOL, WHICH WAS AN ANTIPSYCHOTIC DRUG.  SERZONE, WHICH IS
      16    A COMBINATION SEDATIVE AND ANTIDEPRESSANT.  TRAZODONE, WHICH
      17    IS A SEDATIVE AND MAY BE AN ANTIDEPRESSANT.  DEPAKENE, WHICH
      18    IS AN ANTICONVULSANT AND IS ALSO USED FOR MOOD MANAGEMENT AS
      19    I MENTIONED EARLIER.  AND ATIVAN, WHICH IS A BENZODIAZEPINE
      20    AND ANTIANXIETY DRUG.
      21    Q.  CAN YOU TELL US WHETHER OR NOT THOSE PARTICULAR
      22    MEDICATIONS THAT YOU'VE JUST REFERENCED HAVE ANY CENTRAL
      23    NERVOUS SYSTEM DEPRESSION SIDE EFFECTS?
      24    A.  THEY WOULD ALL HAVE CENTRAL NERVOUS SYSTEM DEPRESSANT
      25    EFFECTS.



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       1    Q.  OKAY.  GO AHEAD AND HAVE YOUR SEAT AGAIN.
       2    A.  (WITNESS COMPLIED.)
       3    Q.  IN YOUR REVIEW OF THE RECORDS DURING THIS TIME PERIOD,
       4    FROM DECEMBER 20TH UNTIL JANUARY THE 8TH, DID YOU SEE,
       5    DURING THAT TIME PERIOD, ANY SIGNS OR SYMPTOMS AS THEY
       6    RELATE TO THE TOXIC EFFECT OF THE SEDATING DRUGS?
       7    A.  YES, I DID.
       8    Q.  OKAY.  CAN YOU DESCRIBE FOR US WHAT SIGNS OR SYMPTOMS
       9    YOU OBSERVED?
      10    A.  WELL, THIS PATIENT, EARLY ON IN HER HOSPITALIZATION,
      11    ACTUALLY DIDN'T SHOW MUCH SIGN OF PROBLEMS.  AS THE DOSE OF
      12    MEDICATIONS WAS INCREASED ON AND AROUND DECEMBER 30TH THE
      13    NURSING NOTES WOULD INCREASE -- WOULD INDICATE AN INCREASE
      14    IN SLEEPINESS AND THE DEPRESSANT EFFECTS OF THESE MEDICINES.
      15    SLEPT ON AND OFF MOST OF THE AFTERNOON.  THOSE SORTS OF
      16    NOTES BEGAN TO APPEAR ABOUT THAT TIME.
      17    Q.  ABOUT WHAT TIME WAS THAT?
      18    A.  THIS WAS ABOUT TEN DAYS INTO HER HOSPITALIZATION.
      19    Q.  OKAY.  NOW, DO THOSE SIGNS OR SYMPTOMS, REFLECTED IN THE
      20    NURSING NOTES, DO THEY CHANGE IN ANY WAY?
      21    A.  AS THE MEDICATION DOSES CONTINUE TO GO UP, AS THEY BEGAN
      22    TO DO AT ABOUT THAT TIME, THERE BEGAN TO BE SOME PRETTY GOOD
      23    DOSE INCREASES.  THEN, FOR INSTANCE, ON JANUARY 2ND SHE'S
      24    NOT EATING, SHE'S VERY DROWSY, STILL HAVING SOME AGGRESSIVE
      25    BEHAVIOR.  BUT, AGAIN, DEFINITELY SHOWING SIGNS IN THE OTHER



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       1    DIRECTION.  BY THIS TIME HER DOSES OF MEDICATION HAD BEEN
       2    INCREASED QUITE A BIT.
       3         ON JANUARY 3RD SHE'S DESCRIBED AS VERY DROWSY.  DID NOT
       4    EAT DINNER DUE TO LETHARGIC STATE.  AND THEN GAVE HALDOL
       5    I.M.  NOT TAKING MEDS.  I THINK THAT WAS BECAUSE SHE WAS
       6    DROWSY.
       7             MR. STIRBA:  I'M NOT SO SURE WHAT THE QUESTION IS,
       8    IF THERE'S A PENDING QUESTION.  ALSO, I THINK IN FAIRNESS --
       9             MR. WILSON:  I THINK HE WAS DESCRIBING THE SIGNS OR
      10    SYMPTOMS THAT HE SAW AS WE PROGRESSED THROUGH THIS TIME
      11    PERIOD.
      12             THE COURT:  GO AHEAD AND PROCEED WITH ANOTHER
      13    QUESTION.
      14    Q.  (BY MR. WILSON)  YOU INDICATED HALDOL I.M. AND WHAT
      15    DATE WAS THAT?
      16    A.  JANUARY 3RD.
      17    Q.  JANUARY 3RD.  I'M TRYING TO LOOK AT THE CHART HERE.  CAN
      18    YOU COMMENT ON THE DOSAGE OF HALDOL THAT WAS ADMINISTERED ON
      19    THAT DAY?
      20    A.  FIVE MILLIGRAMS WAS GIVEN TWICE ON THAT DAY.
      21    Q.  WHAT WOULD BE THE NORMAL DOSAGE?
      22             MR. STIRBA:  I'LL OBJECT.  THAT'S CUMULATIVE.  HE'S
      23    HERE AS A PAIN EXPERT, NOT ON PSYCHOTROPICS.
      24             THE COURT:  LET'S GO ON.
      25             MR. WILSON:  YOUR HONOR, HE'S TESTIFIED AS TO THE



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       1    SEDATING SIDE EFFECTS OF THAT PARTICULAR DRUG.  I WANT TO
       2    FIND OUT, IN TERMS OF THE DOSAGE THAT WAS ADMINISTERED ON
       3    THAT DATE, AS TO ITS POTENTIAL FOR SEDATING SIDE EFFECTS.
       4             MR. STIRBA:  BUT IT'S ALREADY BEEN TESTIFIED TO.
       5             THE COURT:  OKAY.  I'LL LET YOU ASK THAT QUESTION,
       6    BUT WE HAD DR. FEHLAUER HERE FOR A DAY AND A HALF GOING
       7    THROUGH THE SAME THING.
       8    Q.  (BY MR. WILSON)  AS TO THE POTENTIAL SIDE EFFECTS OF
       9    HALDOL ADMINISTERED IN THAT AMOUNT, WHAT IS THE POTENTIAL
      10    FOR SEDATING SIDE EFFECTS?
      11    A.  IT'S A LARGE DOSE AND IT WOULD HAVE VERY SIGNIFICANT
      12    POTENTIAL FOR SEDATING SIDE EFFECTS.
      13    Q.  OKAY.  GOING ON NOW TO JANUARY 7TH, I THINK, WAS
      14    MORPHINE ADMINISTERED ON THAT PARTICULAR DAY?
      15    A.  YES, IT WAS.
      16    Q.  DO YOU RECALL WHEN THE MEDICAL RECORDS INDICATE IT WAS
      17    FIRST ADMINISTERED?
      18    A.  THE FIRST DOSE, MORPHINE FIVE MILLIGRAMS I.M., WAS
      19    ORDERED ON AN EVERY THREE HOUR BASIS.  THE FIRST DOSE WAS
      20    GIVEN AT NINE O'CLOCK IN THE EVENING.
      21    Q.  OKAY.  CAN YOU TELL US, DOCTOR, WERE THERE ANY
      22    INDICATIONS IN THE MEDICAL RECORDS THAT YOU OBSERVED OF ANY
      23    SIGNS OR SYMPTOMS OF PAIN ON THAT PARTICULAR DATE, JANUARY
      24    THE 7TH?
      25    A.  NO.  ON THE CONTRARY, THE PATIENT IS DESCRIBED AS



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       1    MINIMALLY RESPONSIVE, NOT ABLE TO TAKE MEDS, LETHARGIC,
       2    UNRESPONSIVE, NOT SWALLOWING, NOT TAKING ANYTHING BY MOUTH,
       3    NO WET DIAPERS.  SO THE PATIENT APPEARS TO BE HEAVILY
       4    SEDATED AND PROBABLY DEHYDRATED AT THAT POINT.
       5    Q.  CAN YOU TELL US WHETHER OR NOT YOU SAW ANYTHING IN
       6    THAT -- ON JANUARY THE 7TH OR JANUARY THE 6TH WHICH WOULD
       7    INDICATE TO YOU THAT THIS PATIENT WAS IN A TERMINAL STATE?
       8    A.  THERE SEEMED TO BE NO CLEAR CHANGE IN HER MEDICAL
       9    CONDITION.  NOTHING NEW THAT WOULD SUGGEST AN ACUTE CHANGE
      10    IN HER CONDITION THAT WOULD CAUSE HER TO BE IN A TERMINAL
      11    STATE.    !!!
      12    Q.  OKAY.  ON JANUARY THE 8TH WAS THERE FURTHER MORPHINE
      13    GIVEN?
      14    A.  YES, THERE WAS.  SHE RECEIVED -- CONTINUED TO RECEIVE
      15    THE FIVE MILLIGRAMS ON A REGULAR SCHEDULE.  AND THEN ALSO
      16    SHE RECEIVED SEVERAL 10 MILLIGRAM DOSES.
      17    Q.  WHEN WAS THE LAST SHOT ADMINISTERED OF MORPHINE?
      18    A.  IT APPEARS THAT IT WAS ADMINISTERED ABOUT NOON.
      19    Q.  OKAY.  CAN YOU TELL US WHEN THE PATIENT DIED?
      20    A.  IT STATES IN THE NOTES THAT AT 12:45, AND THIS IS A
      21    NURSING NOTE, THE DAUGHTER REQUESTED I CHECK PATIENT.
      22    QUOTE, I DON'T THINK SHE'S BREATHING, END OF QUOTE.  THE
      23    PATIENT WAS PRONOUNCED DEAD.
      24    Q.  AGAIN, BASED UPON YOUR EXPERIENCE, YOUR TRAINING AND
      25    EXPERTISE AND YOUR REVIEW OF THE MEDICA