Robert Bitner, MD
17 ROBERT FELT BITNER,
18 BEING FIRST DULY SWORN, WAS EXAMINED AND TESTIFIED
19 AS FOLLOWS:
20 DIRECT EXAMINATION
21 BY MR. WILSON:
22 Q. DR. BITNER, COULD YOU STATE YOUR FULL NAME FOR THE
23 RECORD, PLEASE?
24 A. ROBERT FELT BITNER.
25 Q. AND ARE YOU CURRENTLY EMPLOYED IN ANY PROFESSION?
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1 A. I'M RETIRED. I WAS A PHYSICIAN AT THE TANNER MEMORIAL
2 CLINIC FOR 43 YEARS.
3 Q. OKAY.
4 A. RETIRED ABOUT FIVE YEARS AGO.
5 Q. RETIRED ABOUT FIVE YEARS AGO?
6 A. YES.
7 Q. SO YOU WERE WORKING AT TANNER MEMORIAL CLINIC BACK IN
8 1995 AND EARLY '96?
9 A. YES.
10 Q. DID YOU HAVE -- WELL, WHEN DID YOU GRADUATE FROM MEDICAL
11 SCHOOL, DOCTOR?
12 A. 1951, UNIVERSITY OF UTAH.
13 Q. OKAY. AND HOW LONG HAVE YOU BEEN IN PRACTICE SINCE THAT
14 TIME?
15 A. FORTY-THREE YEARS.
16 Q. OKAY. DO YOU HAVE ANY BOARD CERTIFICATIONS?
17 A. NO. I -- I HAD -- I WAS CONSIDERED BOARD ELIGIBLE IN
18 INTERNAL MEDICINE. I INTERNED IN A ROTATING INTERNSHIP IN
19 CONNECTICUT, AND THEN LATER WENT TO NEW YORK CITY FOR A
20 RESIDENCY IN INTERNAL MEDICINE. AND THEN RETURNED TO SALT
21 LAKE.
22 Q. OKAY. SO HOW LONG HAVE YOU PRACTICED IN UTAH?
23 A. WELL, I'VE BEEN AT THE -- I'VE BEEN AT THE CLINIC SINCE
24 THE -- FOR THE 43 YEARS I'VE BEEN IN PRACTICE.
25 Q. FOR 43 YEARS?
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1 A. YES.
2 Q. OKAY. HOW LONG HAS THAT BEEN WITH TANNER MEMORIAL
3 CLINIC?
4 A. THE SAME FOR ALL THAT TIME.
5 Q. AND HAVE YOU SPECIALIZED IN ANY PARTICULAR AREA IN YOUR
6 PRACTICE?
7 A. YES. INTERNAL MEDICINE AND CARDIOLOGY. AT THE TIME I
8 FIRST CAME HERE WITH THIS BACKGROUND OF TRAINING, IT WAS
9 NECESSARY THAT WE KNOW JUST ABOUT EVERYTHING ON EVERY
10 SPECIALTY. IT WASN'T HIGHLY CHANNELLED LIKE IT IS NOW.
11 Q. OKAY. JUST A MINUTE, DOCTOR. LET ME GRAB AN EXHIBIT
12 HERE.
13 MR. MAY: DO YOU NEED THE ELMO?
14 MR. WILSON: WELL, I'LL SEE.
15 Q. (BY MR. WILSON) I'M HANDING YOU -- EXCUSE ME -- WHAT'S
16 MARKED AS STATE'S EXHIBIT NUMBER 4. THIS DOCUMENT -- OR
17 THIS LOOSELEAF CONTAINS THE MEDICAL RECORD OF A PATIENT BY
18 THE NAME OF LYDIA SMITH WHO WAS ADMITTED TO THE GEROPSYCH
19 UNIT AT THE DAVIS HOSPITAL BACK IN DECEMBER OF 1995. ARE
20 YOU ACQUAINTED WITH THAT PATIENT -- OR DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING
21 TO DO WITH THAT PATIENT? I'LL PUT IT THAT WAY.
22 A. YES, I DID.
23 Q. DO YOU RECALL WHAT YOUR INVOLVEMENT WITH THE PATIENT
24 WAS?
25 A. HONESTLY I DIDN'T AT THE TIME I RECEIVED THE -- THE
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1 REQUEST TO APPEAR HERE, BUT IN LOOKING BACK ON THE NOTE THAT
2 I MADE AT THAT TIME, I -- MY MEMORY RETURNED PRETTY WELL.
3 Q. SO YOU DID HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW YOUR NOTE AS IT
4 RELATED TO THE PATIENT LYDIA SMITH?
5 A. YES.
6 Q. OKAY. AND I WANT YOU TO TURN IN THAT PARTICULAR EXHIBIT
7 TO A -- THERE'S A PAGING SYSTEM AT THE BOTTOM THAT SAYS
8 M-E-D, AND IT'S 00703, IF YOU COULD FIND THAT, PLEASE.
9 A. AT THE BOTTOM?
10 MR. WILSON: MAY I?
11 THE COURT: YES.
12 MR. WILSON: THANK YOU. LET'S SEE IF I CAN FIND IT
13 THERE.
14 Q. (BY MR. WILSON) DOES THAT APPEAR TO BE THE NOTE THAT
15 YOU REFERENCED THAT YOU HAD REVIEWED PRIOR TO COMING HERE TO
16 COURT TODAY?
17 A. YES, SIR.
18 Q. OKAY. NOW, DID YOU HAVE PRIVILEGES AT THE HOSPITAL,
19 DAVIS HOSPITAL?
20 A. YES.
21 Q. OKAY. AND AT THIS TIME WERE YOU DOING ANY WORK AS A
22 CONSULTANT AT THE HOSPITAL?
23 A. I WAS ON THE STAFF AS AN INTERNIST, INTERNAL MEDICINE.
24 Q. OKAY.
25 A. AND CARDIOLOGY AS A SECONDARY. AND BEING ON THE STAFF I
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1 HAD SOME OBLIGATION TO RESPOND TO REQUESTS FOR CONSULT.
2 Q. OKAY. DID YOU HAVE OCCASION IN -- IN THAT CAPACITY TO
3 DO ANY EVALUATIONS FOR PATIENTS WHO WERE BEING ADMITTED TO
4 THE GEROPSYCH UNIT ON THE HOSPITAL?
5 A. YEAH. THE PROCEDURE AT THAT TIME, AND I'M -- MAYBE IT'S
6 THAT WAY STILL -- WAS THAT IF THERE WAS AN ADMISSION TO THE
7 GEROPSYCHIATRIC WARD BY A PSYCHIATRIST THAT THEY ASKED ONE
8 OF THE AVAILABLE INTERNISTS TO SEE THE PATIENT AND EXAMINE
9 THE PATIENT, LEAVE A HISTORY THAT'S AVAILABLE. AND THEN
10 THIS WAS FOR THE PURPOSE OF DETERMINING WHETHER IT WAS
11 APPROPRIATE THAT THAT PATIENT BE MANAGED ON THIS FACILITY,
12 FROM A MEDICAL STANDPOINT.
13 Q. AND DID YOU DO SUCH AN EVALUATION AS IT RELATED TO LYDIA
14 SMITH?
15 A. YES, SIR, I DID.
16 Q. OKAY. CAN YOU TELL THE JURY HOW YOU CONDUCTED THAT
17 PARTICULAR EVALUATION? FIRST OF ALL, AS TO WHAT DATE DID
18 YOU CONDUCT THE EVALUATION? DO YOU REMEMBER?
19 A. YES. IT WAS THE 20TH OF DECEMBER IN '95.
20 Q. OKAY. DID YOU SUBSEQUENTLY -- WELL, DO YOU REMEMBER
21 WHAT TIME OF THE DAY OR DOES THAT REFLECT -- IS THAT
22 REFLECTED IN THE NOTE?
23 A. IT WAS -- IT WAS DURING -- IT WAS DURING THE DAY. AS
24 FAR AS I KNOW, IT WAS IN THE MORNING TIME.
25 Q. OKAY.
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1 A. I THINK I WAS MAKING ROUNDS AND THEY CALLED ME THAT I
2 HAD A -- A DUTY TO PERFORM AND SO I RESPONDED.
3 Q. SO IN -- IN MAKING YOUR EVALUATION, DO YOU GO THROUGH A
4 CERTAIN PROCESS?
5 A. YES, I -- I SAW THE -- THE PATIENT, WAS INTRODUCED TO
6 HER BY THE NURSES AND --
7 Q. DO YOU HAVE ANY RECORD --
8 A. -- WITH THE IDEA OF DOING -- OF OBTAINING A HISTORY, AN
9 IDEA OF WHAT THE PROBLEM WAS, AND A PHYSICAL EXAMINATION AND
10 THEN LEAVING A RECORD OF WHAT MY FINDINGS WERE.
11 Q. WELL, ON THIS PARTICULAR DATE DO YOU HAVE A RECOLLECTION
12 NOW, AFTER REVIEWING THE NOTES, AS TO WHAT OCCURRED ON THIS
13 PARTICULAR DAY?
14 A. YES, I DO. IT WAS --
15 Q. OKAY. CAN YOU TELL US WHEN YOU MET THIS PATIENT WHAT IF
16 ANYTHING OCCURRED IN -- IN THE CONTEXT OF THAT MEETING?
17 A. SHE WAS -- THIS WAS VERY UNUSUAL IN THAT SHE WAS VERY
18 DISTURBED AND -- AND CONFUSED AND TOTALLY UNCOOPERATIVE.
19 AND I EXPECTED THAT I MIGHT BE ABLE TO SIT DOWN WITH HER
20 AND -- AND GET HER CALMED DOWN AND MAYBE BE ABLE TO GET SOME
21 EVALUATION OF HER -- OF HER MEDICAL SITUATION, OF HER
22 PHYSICAL SITUATION.
23 Q. DO YOU REMEMBER WHETHER OR NOT SHE WAS ABLE TO
24 COMMUNICATE WITH YOU IN ANY FASHION?
25 A. SHE LET ME KNOW RIGHT OFF THAT SHE DIDN'T WANT ME TO
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1 TOUCH HER.
2 Q. OKAY.
3 A. AND --
4 Q. WAS THAT COMMUNICATED VERBALLY OR WAS THAT COMMUNICATED
5 IN ANOTHER FASHION?
6 A. WELL, SHE KICKED THE NURSE AND PINCHED THE NURSE WHILE I
7 WAS THERE, AND THE NURSES THAT WERE TRYING TO SORT OF HELP
8 ME ACCOMPLISH WHAT I WAS SUPPOSED TO DO. AND WE WERE TRYING
9 TO GET HER CALMED DOWN SO THAT I COULD OBTAIN SOMETHING
10 SPECIFIC TO FULFILL MY PART OF THE -- OF THE ASSIGNMENT.
11 Q. OKAY.
12 A. SHE -- SHE TALKED, BUT GARBLED. I COULDN'T ALWAYS
13 UNDERSTAND WHAT SHE WAS -- SHE WASN'T -- SHE WASN'T TALKING
14 IN AN ORDERLY WAY. SHE WAS -- I FELT THAT SHE WAS DEMENTED.
15 Q. OKAY.
16 A. AND SHE WAS NOT FUNCTIONING MENTALLY AT ALL LIKE I WOULD
17 LIKED TO HAVE HAD HER FOR MY PURPOSES.
18 Q. TURN TO PAGE TWO OF YOUR NOTE, IF YOU WOULD, PLEASE.
19 YOU HAVE A NOTE THERE RELATED TO PHYSICAL EXAMINATION. WERE
20 YOU, IN FACT, ABLE TO CONDUCT A PHYSICAL EXAMINATION ON THIS
21 PATIENT?
22 A. NOT REALLY. ORDINARILY WITH A PHYSICAL EXAMINATION YOU
23 EXAMINE THEM CLOSELY: HEART, LUNGS, EYES, EARS, NOSE AND
24 THROAT, FUNCTION OF THE BODY GENERALLY, AND I -- I REALLY
25 COULDN'T ACCOMPLISH THAT AT ALL OTHER THAN TO OBSERVE HOW
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1 SHE WAS MOVING AROUND AND -- AND ABLE TO --
2 Q. OKAY. WOULD YOU READ YOUR -- YOUR NOTE UNDER PHYSICAL
3 EXAMINATION AS TO YOUR GENERAL IMPRESSION AS TO HER PHYSICAL
4 EXAM?
5 A. PHYSICALLY -- PHYSICALLY SHE APPEARS TO BE FRAIL, BUT IS
6 STRONG ENOUGH TO GET UP AND WALK AROUND, ESPECIALLY WITH
7 HELP. SHE SHOWS EVIDENCE OF WEIGHT LOSS. SHE IS VERY THIN,
8 BUT IN GENERAL SHE IS QUITE FUNCTIONAL. BLOOD PRESSURE
9 RECORDED BY THE NURSE IS 130/60 WITH A PULSE OF 80 THAT IS
10 REGULAR.
11 Q. SO HER BLOOD PRESSURE WAS -- WAS WITHIN THE NORMAL
12 RANGE?
13 A. YES.
14 Q. OKAY. OTHER THAN WHAT YOU HAD READ ABOUT HER PAST
15 HISTORY AND PAST MEDICATIONS AND WHAT YOU'D RECEIVED AS TO
16 THE BLOOD PRESSURE REPORT, WERE THERE ANY OTHER TESTS THAT
17 YOU REVIEWED IN ORDER TO FORM ANY DIAGNOSTIC OPINION AS TO
18 THIS PATIENT?
19 A. I -- I REVIEWED THE -- THE -- THE SERIES OF VITAL SIGNS
20 THAT WERE TAKEN: TEMPERATURE, RESPIRATION, BLOOD PRESSURE,
21 PULSE, AND SO ON, AND THAT -- I OBSERVED THAT THERE WERE
22 LABORATORY WORK THAT HAD BEEN REQUESTED. AND I DON'T
23 REMEMBER WHEN I SAW THE LABORATORY WORK, BUT I FOUND THAT IT
24 WAS REASONABLY WITHIN NORMAL LIMITS.
25 Q. DID YOU REVIEW THE MEDICATIONS THAT SHE HAD BEEN ON?
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1 A. YES, SIR.
2 Q. DO YOU KNOW WHETHER OR NOT SHE'D STARTED RECEIVING ANY
3 MEDICATIONS AT THE HOSPITAL ITSELF?
4 A. I UNDERSTOOD THAT SHE HAD. I'M NOT SURE THE TIMING ON
5 THAT.
6 Q. ALL RIGHT.
7 A. WOULD HAVE TO BE --
8 Q. CAN YOU TELL US WHETHER OR NOT IN -- IN YOUR OPINION --
9 YOU FORMED ANY OPINION AS TO WHETHER OR NOT THIS PATIENT WAS
10 SUFFERING FROM ANY KIND OF PAIN?
11 A. SHE DIDN'T INDICATE TO ME THAT -- BY HER MOVEMENTS OR
12 ACTIVITY THAT SHE WAS IN ANY PAIN AT ALL. Nor that she wasn't.
13 Q. OKAY. LOOKING DOWN FURTHER ON YOUR DIAGNOSTIC SECTION
14 OF THE EXAM YOU INDICATE ARTERIOSCLERO -- BETTER HAVE -- I
15 BETTER HAVE YOU READ THE NOTE.
16 A. ARTERIOSCLEROTIC CARDIOVASCULAR DISEASE, ESPECIALLY
17 CEREBRAL ARTERIOSCLEROSIS.
18 Q. OKAY. AND WHAT WAS THAT DIAGNOSIS FORMED ON? I MEAN,
19 WHAT -- WHAT DID YOU USE TO MAKE THAT PARTICULAR DIAGNOSIS?
20 A. I THINK PRIMARILY HER HISTORY, AND ALSO SHE WAS
21 RECEIVING TREATMENT FOR HYPERTENSION -- FOR HIGH BLOOD
22 PRESSURE, AND ALSO OTHER MEDICATION THAT WAS DIRECTED
23 TOWARDS MANAGEMENT OF THE -- THE HEART FUNCTION.
24 Q. IN YOUR RECOMMENDATIONS YOU INDICATE GENERAL CARE AS
25 OUTLINED AS FAR AS NUTRITION AND MEDICATIONS AND JUST
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1 GENERAL SUPPORTIVE CARE.
2 A. YES, SIR.
3 Q. OKAY. DID YOU SEE THAT THIS PATIENT WAS SUFFERING FROM
4 ANY KIND OF AN ACUTE ILLNESS AT THAT POINT?
5 A. OTHER THAN HER DEMENTIA, NO.
6 Q. OKAY. DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING FURTHER TO DO WITH THE
7 PATIENT, DOCTOR, AFTER THAT PARTICULAR DAY?
8 A. NO, SIR.
9 Q. OKAY.
10 MR. WILSON: I HAVE NO FURTHER QUESTIONS.
11 THE COURT: OKAY. MR. STIRBA?
12 CROSS-EXAMINATION
13 BY MR. STIRBA:
14 Q. DOCTOR, GOOD MORNING. YOU DO HAVE -- UNDER DIAGNOSIS
15 YOU DO HAVE ARTERIOSCLEROTIC CARDIOVASCULAR DISEASE; IS THAT
16 RIGHT?
17 A. YES, SIR.
18 Q. DO YOU CONSIDER THAT A SERIOUS MEDICAL CONDITION?
19 A. YES, SIR.
20 Q. AND CERTAINLY THAT'S A MEDICAL CONDITION THAT COULD END
21 UP IN DEATH; IS THAT TRUE?
22 A. THE COMPLICATIONS OF THAT MAY CAUSE DEATH, YES.
23 Q. AND WOULD THE SAME BE WITH CEREBRAL ARTERIOSCLEROSIS?
24 WOULD THAT ALSO BE A SERIOUS MEDICAL CONDITION?
25 A. YES, SIR.
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1 Q. AND COULD THAT ALSO END UP IN DEATH OR THE COMPLICATIONS
2 THEREFROM?
3 A. YES.
4 Q. NOW, YOU HAVE -- YOU HAVE YOUR REPORT IN FRONT OF YOU,
5 DO YOU NOT?
6 A. YES, UH-HUH.
7 Q. I MEAN, THIS IS NOT A MEMORY TEST HERE.
8 A. THANK YOU.
9 Q. YOU'RE WELCOME. IF YOU LOOK AT THE TOP IT SAYS ADMIT,
10 AND IT HAS 12/20/95. DO YOU SEE THAT?
11 A. YES.
12 Q. DO YOU RECALL IS THAT THE DATE WHEN YOU CONDUCTED YOUR
13 EXAMINATION?
14 A. YES, BUT I -- I UNDERSTOOD THAT SHE WAS ADMITTED THE DAY
15 BEFORE.
16 Q. OKAY. BUT THE DATE AT LEAST WHEN YOU DID YOUR
17 EXAMINATION YOU RECALL BEING 12/20/95?
18 A. YES, SIR.
19 Q. AND THEN IF YOU GO TO THE -- PAGE 2, DOWN AT THE
20 LEFT-HAND CORNER OF THE DOCUMENT YOU'LL SEE THERE IS SOME
21 INITIALS APPARENTLY FOR SOMEBODY WHO WAS INVOLVED IN
22 TRANSCRIBING YOUR DICTATED NOTE. AND THERE'S A "D" AND THAT
23 STANDS FOR DICTATION, RIGHT?
24 A. YES, THAT'S RIGHT.
25 Q. AND THEN THERE'S A DATE, 12/21/95, AND THEN IT APPEARS
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1 TO BE 1310 HOURS. DO YOU SEE THAT?
2 A. UH-HUH. YES.
3 Q. NOW, WOULD THAT HAVE BEEN THE -- THE ACTUAL DATE WHEN
4 YOU DICTATED THIS NOTE?
5 A. IT PROBABLY WAS, ALTHOUGH --
6 Q. SO THAT --
7 A. ALTHOUGH THE PRACTICE AT THAT TIME AFTER SEEING THE
8 PATIENT WAS TO DICTATE IT THEN. AND I CAN'T TELL YOU FOR
9 SURE.
10 Q. SURE. BUT AT LEAST AS FAR AS -- AS WHAT YOU HAVE IN
11 FRONT OF YOU, IT -- AT LEAST IT APPEARS THAT IT WAS DICTATED
12 ON 12/21/95 AND TRANSCRIBED ON 12/21/95.
13 A. THAT'S WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE, YES, SIR.
14 Q. AND IT'S TRUE, IS IT NOT, DOCTOR, THAT THERE'S --
15 THERE'S -- THAT'S NOT AN UNUSUAL PRACTICE IN THE MEDICAL
16 PROFESSION WERE YOU MIGHT HAVE TO DICTATE SOMETHING THE NEXT
17 DAY?
18 A. IT DOES HAPPEN, YES, SIR.
19 Q. AND, IN FACT, WASN'T -- WASN'T THERE -- DO YOU RECALL
20 WHETHER THERE WAS A REQUIREMENT OR AN EXPECTATION THAT FOLKS
21 LIKE YOU, INTERNAL MEDICINE DOCTORS --
22 A. UH-HUH.
23 Q. -- WOULD SEE THE PATIENTS ADMITTED TO THE UNIT WITHIN 24
24 HOURS AFTER ADMISSION?
25 A. I DON'T RECALL ANYTHING TO THAT EFFECT, BUT I THINK IT
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1 WAS EXPECTED THAT WE WOULD -- WE WOULD DO IT AS -- AT THE
2 TIME THAT WE WERE CALLED.
3 Q. NOW, ONCE AGAIN YOUR -- YOUR REPORT -- JUST A FEW
4 THINGS, IF YOU COULD GO BACK TO PAGE 1, PLEASE.
5 A. OKAY.
6 Q. AND UNDER PAST HISTORY YOU STATE IN THAT SECOND
7 PARAGRAPH: SHE IS TOTALLY UNCOOPERATIVE OTHER THAN TO VOICE
8 SOME RESENTMENT IN A KIND OF GARBLED FASHION THAT I DO NOT
9 UNDERSTAND.
10 DID I READ THAT CORRECTLY?
11 A. YES.
12 Q. AND THEN THE NEXT SENTENCE YOU SAY: HER FAMILY IS
13 INTERESTED IN HER CARE, BUT APPARENTLY NOT TO THE POINT OF
14 BEING ABLE TO HELP OR KNOW WHAT TO DO.
15 DID I READ THAT CORRECTLY?
16 A. YES.
17 Q. AND THEN IF YOU'LL GO TO THE NEXT PAGE, YOU -- YOU -- ON
18 PAGE 2 UP AT THE TOP YOU INDICATE THAT SHE'S LOST 30 POUNDS
19 IN THE LAST YEAR; IS THAT RIGHT?
20 A. YES.
21 Q. AND YOU ALSO INDICATE THAT THERE IS SOME QUESTION ABOUT
22 HER APPETITE. TRUE?
23 A. YES.
24 Q. AND THEN DOWN AT THE BOTTOM UNDER RECOMMENDATIONS YOU
25 STATE: GENERAL CARE AS OUTLINED AS FAR AS NUTRITION AND
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1 MEDICATIONS, AND JUST GENERAL SUPPORTIVE CARE.
2 A. YES.
3 Q. DID I READ THAT CORRECTLY?
4 A. YES, THAT'S RIGHT.
5 Q. COULD YOU TELL ME AND TELL US, PLEASE, WHAT YOU MEANT BY
6 GENERAL SUPPORTIVE CARE?
7 A. WELL, IN -- IN HER CASE IT WOULD BE CLOSE NURSING CARE;
8 HELP WITH HER NUTRITION, AS FAR AS FEEDING IS CONCERNED;
9 MANAGEMENT OF HER INTAKE AND OUTPUT, BOTH AS FAR AS FOOD, IF
10 SHE'S ABLE, OR -- OR MOISTURE -- I.V. -- OR LIQUID INTAKE
11 AND OUTPUT.
12 AND THEN THE MEDICATIONS AS ORDERED, I WOULD EXPECT
13 THEM TO FOLLOW UP ON -- ON THAT AS IT WAS WRITTEN. I DID
14 NOT WRITE THOSE ORDERS.
15 Q. I UNDERSTAND.
16 A. AND THEN THE OTHER THING, OF COURSE, IS TO BE SURE
17 THAT -- THAT THE NURSES WATCH HER AND -- AND HELP HER IF
18 SHE'S UP OR IF SHE'S WALKING AROUND SO THAT SHE WOULDN'T
19 HURT HERSELF BECAUSE SHE WAS -- HAD NO JUDGMENT AND NO -- NO
20 NORMAL ABILITY TO -- FOR HER SELF-CARE. SO SHE WOULD HAVE
21 TO BE MANAGED ALMOST ENTIRELY BY THE NURSING STAFF.
22 Q. ALL RIGHT.
23 MR. STIRBA: THANK YOU, DOCTOR.
24 THE COURT: ANYTHING FURTHER OF THIS WITNESS?
25 MR. WILSON: NO FURTHER QUESTIONS.
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1 THE COURT: OKAY. MAY HE BE EXCUSED?
2 MR. WILSON: HE MAY.